Things that don’t make sense in so many AC cases.
UPDATE: WE HAVE LEARNED THAT ONE OF THE “HEALTHY” HORSES HAS DIED – CAT THE 15 YR OLD MARE,AT THE HANDS OF THE CARE OF HER RESCUERS, HOOVED ANIMAL CARE, NO REASON HAS BEEN GIVEN & MS TURNER WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE HER OR HAVE A VET CHECK HER. AT THIS POINT ALL SHE KNOWS IS THAT THE HORSE HAS DIED & IS SCHEDULED FOR A NECROPSY BY A VET WHO IS NOT ACCREDITED TO DO NECROPSIES. THIS WAS ONE OF THE SEEMINGLY BETTER OFF HORSES THAT THEY HAVE HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION FOR ABOUT 4 MONTHS, (PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS NOT IN THE NEWSPAPERS & THEY CONSISTENTLY SAY THAT THE FEMALE HORSES ARE FINE & THE MALE IS COMING ALONG VERY WELL) WHY ISN’T THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE??? THE LAST REPORT ON 12/3/2012 (THAT I CAN FIND) SAYS THE HORSES ARE DOING WELL & DAYS LATER ONE IS DEAD?
Maybe it is just that the reporters screw things up, but when you start to follow some of these stories it makes you just scratch your head…
But… Look closer: This is classic, subliminal programming designed to evoke an emotional response, designed to make this woman a monster, to get you emotionally involved & attached to the story, to ensure that there is a conviction & that you will never question. I have only included a couple of many stories but it will give you an idea of what is going on.
ALL OF THE ARTICLES INCLUDE:
1) THE WOMAN’S FULL NAME
2) THE WOMAN’S AGE
3) HER HOME ADDRESS
4) HER COURT DATES
5) THE ANIMALS NAMES
6) CLOSE UP PHOTOS OF THE ANIMALS
BY GIVING YOU ALL OF THIS INFORMATION THE “MONSTER” HAS A NAME, A FACE, & YOU BECOME EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED IN THE STORY, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY REPORT EVERY WEEK ABOUT TRIVIAL THINGS, ONE DOG GAINED 3 LBS OR THAT THEY ARE DOING WELL IS KEEPING YOU ENGAGED & INVOLVED, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED.
THIS IS THE FIRST WOMAN BEING CHARGED WITH THE NEW ANIMAL CONTROL LAWS IN THE STATE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HER, SHE IS A “TEST RUN” THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE YOU THAT THE TOTAL UTTER DESTRUCTION OF YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS IS “GOOD”, THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE YOU THEY ARE “PROTECTING ANIMALS” AND THAT IT SHOULD HAPPEN AT ALL COSTS, JUST LIKE WITH THE PATRIOT ACT.
EVEN MORE SINISTER IS THAT THEY ARE GIVING YOU ALL OF HER PERSONAL INFORMATION… ARE THEY HOPING THAT SOMEONE WILL COME AND KILL HER, HURT HER, OR DESTROY HER PROPERTY SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER NEWS STORY, MAYBE SAVE THE COST & EXPENSE OF GOING TO COURT?
YOU ALSO HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHY THEY TOOK THE HORSES, DOGS & A PIG BUT LEFT ALL OF HER CHICKENS, & RABBITS.
Here is an example
Animals seized in Boston Harbor area
Animal Services officers assisted by the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office went onto the property in the 6300 block of Zangle Road Northeast, near Boston Harbor just before 11 a.m. and removed the animals. The Great Danes, one male and one female, are underweight and looked emaciated, Animal Services officer Erika Johnson said.
A veterinarian gave the four seized horses a checkup Tuesday, concluding the three mares and emaciated stallion were in poor enough health for authorities to act.
The stallion was “on death’s door,” Hooved Animal Rescue vice president Teresa King said Wednesday.
This is not the first time Animal Services has come to the residence on calls concerning animals, Johnson said. The resident is not being named because she has yet to be charged.
Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Cassandra Jones was on site and said she didn’t want to speculate on possible charges until she receives the report.
THEY WILL GIVE THE ADDRESS BUT NOT THE NAME?
Some animals seized at farm near Olympia show signs of improvement
Animals seized near Olympia are under veterinary care and showing signs of improvement, Animal Services officials say.
The two Great Danes have gained two pounds each but remain in critical condition, said Animal Services director Susanne Beauregard.
Things are looking better for the small cattle dog, which was not as emaciated as the Great Danes.
Animal Services and the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office went onto the property in the 6300 block of Zangle Road Northeast, near Boston Harbor, late Wednesday morning and removed the animals. Animal Services can be reached at 360-352-2510.
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Woman charged with animal cruelty
6 counts: Emaciated animals seized at her home last month
JEREMY PAWLOSKI | Staff writer • Published October 18, 2011
A 28-year-old woman is charged with three counts of felony animal cruelty and three counts of misdemeanor failure to provide humane care in connection with an animal seizure at her home in the 6300 block of Zangle Road on Sept. 13.
Rebecca Lynn Turner was charged late Friday with the six counts in Thurston County Superior Court. She must appear before a judge for her arraignment Oct. 25, court papers state.
Two of the first-degree animal cruelty counts are for the alleged negligence in caring for the two Great Danes, named Raja and Nemesis. As of Friday, both dogs were recovering at a local veterinary hospital. Both dogs had gained approximately 37 pounds.
WAIT A MINUTE I THOUGHT ONE GAINED 33 AND ANOTHER GAINED 38 POUNDS, WERE ARE THE DETAILS?
Another first-degree animal cruelty count is for alleged negligence in caring for a 4-year-old paint stallion named Carlos. Court papers do not update the current status of Carlos’ health. The horse lost a dramatic amount of weight since he was purchased by Turner in April. “No apparent reason exists for the lack of weight on this horse … other than lack of food.”
The misdemeanor counts of failure to provide humane care are for alleged negligence in caring for a 22-year-old Arabian mare named Sassy, a 15-year-old Arabian mare named Cat, and a 2-year-old paint mare named Chevrolet. Those three horses were in poor condition but were not as severely emaciated as Carlos, court papers state.
Jeremy Pawloski: 360-754-5465
jpawloski@theolympian.com
Read more here: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/10/18/1842474/woman-charged-with-animal-cruelty.html?storylink=fb#storylink=cpy
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Washington Woman Charged With Starving Several Animals
October 20, 2011 7:14 AM
Photo shows two Great Danes that were seized from the home of Rebecca Lynn Turner in Olympia. (credit: Joint Animal Services of Olympia)
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OLYMPIA, Wash. (CBS Seattle) — A Washington woman could face years behind bars for allegedly starving several animals.
The Thurston County Sheriff’s Office has charged Rebecca Lynn Turner with three counts of felony animal cruelty.
Eight animals were seized from her home last month during a raid. Joint Animal Services of Olympia took hold of four horses, three dogs, and one pot-bellied pig.
Animal Services described the dogs as drastically underweight when taken from Turner’s home.
“Both dogs have gained a tremendous amount of weight. The female has gained 37 pounds and the male has gained slightly less in the short time that we have had them.”
The horses and pig also showed signs of starvation when they were seized.
Turner will be arraigned on Oct. 25.
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2 dogs, pig, horses seized in Olympia area recovering well
Two Great Danes described as “critically thin” two months ago after being seized from an Olympia-area residence have gained considerable weight and are recovering in foster homes, according to Animal Services officials.
Two Great Danes described as “critically thin” two months ago after being seized from an Olympia-area residence have gained considerable weight and are recovering in foster homes, according to Animal Services officials.
Raja, the female, weighed 66 pounds at time of the raid and is now 113 pounds; Nemesis, the male, has gained 38 pounds. He came into the shelter weighing 77 pounds, said Connie Patterson, Animal Services’ shelter manager.
The four horses that were also seized are improving and receiving care from Hooved Animal Rescue, including Carlos, a 4-year-old paint stallion. The stallion was in the worst condition of the four, given a 1 rating on a body-condition scale of 1-10. Carlos is now rated a 5 and is becoming more active, Patterson said.
Rebecca Lynn Turner, 28, was charged in October with three counts of felony animal cruelty and three counts of misdemeanor failure to provide humane care. A pretrial hearing is scheduled next week; her trial is tentatively scheduled the week of Jan. 16.
None of the animals seized has been adopted, pending the result of the trial.
Nate Hulings: 360-754-5476 nhulings@theolympian.com www.theolympian.com/outsideoly
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County? What is really going on? ?
Okay we all know I take issues with “rescues” that are run by City & County Shelter employees. The 2 things need to be separated.
It is a good chance that if you live in Thurston County if your animals are seized they are going there, to that rescue, that is run by a shelter employee.
There was a raid in September & there was 4 horses seized, 1 was returned to it’s former owner, 2 are still there & the fourth “Sassy” died of colic, the vet’s report stated her intestines were twisted, & that is was a very slow & painful death, finally ending with an intestinal rupture. UNDER THE CARE OF A HOOVED ANIMAL RESCUE FOSTER HOME’S CARE. Please keep in mind this happened on January 9th 2012 & the horses were seized on September 14th 2011.
For those of you don’t know what colic in horses looks like here it is;
The horse bites at it’s stomach, they thrash on the ground, they don’t just lay down, they drop to the ground they open their mouths like they are gasping for air, they kick their legs, they attempt to roll over but they never are able to roll all the way over, their backs are arched up from the pain & they look like hunchbacks, then they get up bite & kick at their own stomachs. Their whole bodies are covered in sweat, their gums are white, their eyes bulge from their head & are bloodshot, they are nervous, unable to be comforted, they grunt because they are straining to push the gas through but it hurts them so badly they can’t even whinny.
It is a very slow & horribly painful death that can last for days. For those of you who don’t know this, a horse can not throw up but colic most times is a simple matter of care, the horse merely has to POOP, so a good caretaker will simply walk the horse & keep it moving until it does so, if it doesn’t then a vet is called out & the puts a tube down the horses nose & pumps in some medicine to fix the problem.
So how do you NOT notice this? How does a horse languish in this kind of AGONY & NO ONE notices? Her intestines RUPTURED from the pressure, can you possibly imagine that kind of pain?
I run a rescue, donations from the public are the ONLY way we can succeed, or even attempt to help animals. I can have all the “dreams” & good intentions in the world but it wouldn’t be possible without the love of others. I also understand that all it takes is one medical emergency & you are completely out of funds. (Been there did it!!!)
I also understand that when someone gives me their hard earned money I have the obligation to be honest with them & let them know exactly how I spent their monies, it is a moral obligation but it is also a legal obligation. I have been blessed with good donors, people who have donated 5 dollars to 25 hundred dollars. That is why when the nutbag Rose started her crap about me taking donations & spending them on stupid things I had to laugh because HELLO!!! I am an accountant & I keep impeccable books, & every donor knows where their money is going. It can happen that you get several emergencies & you end up in the horrid situation I did, honestly I could’ve said well “that” dog was too old & just opted to euthanize her & called it a day: but I have to live with myself, & eventually I will have to answer to a higher power. I took her out of that shelter & I made her a promise that I would do everything in my power to help her & by God I did. It is a fine line & it is a hard road.
So the constant requests for donations: I get that, what I don’t get is the County Employee/Rescue operator who is getting cash grants from a shelter to run her rescue, & also getting animals from the shelter & law enforcement when she doesn’t have the funds to care for them.
Not once do they mention that this horse is dead, or how it died, the day after she died they were again requesting donations, & they are trying to charge this Rebecca Turner woman 10K to care for her 4 horses when they don’t have 1 of them & they let one of them die, they did not need any extraordinary vet care, just support, AND they are also claiming the last group of 6 horses they took in cost 10K to take care of, when 2 of them died & they continually post about spending 2 to 4 thousand dollars on their vet care. Is 10K the “standard” price they charge every time they take an animals in every time. If they are getting 10K for every raid they take animals in from then why do they still need donations, sounds VERY lucrative to me.
They don’t even have to go out & look for horses, they are delivered right to their door, so along with what they are charging owners & what they are getting from the County Shelter, they should be pretty self sufficient. Where are those county funds coming from? County taxes? Community Donations?
I went looking for their Facebook page after getting all of this info & sure enough, no mention of the horse who died, & as I was told they said the last group of 6 horses were the “worst they had ever seen” but: In the newspaper reports they did they claimed the 4 horses from September were.
I have never dealt with this rescue, from the looks of it I will never, as a matter of fact I will not ever refer anyone to them, I don’t see them as an organization that is out for the animals, I see them grabbing at the media straws, milking it for everything it’s worth, they are misrepresenting themselves giving updates on the pig & dogs also seized when they never had them. Worst of all they have something horrid to say about almost everyone. Typical rescue high school drama.
If these rescues worked as hard as I do & many other rescues or shelters that you DON’T see in the newspapers every day to prevent this & help owners who are in trouble then there would be far less suffering for animals. I do free shots, free flea treatments, free wormers, free dog & cat food. I help people who are overwhelmed with too many critters get their numbers down, or simply help them clean up their homes & surroundings. Sadly when I get a person with too many animals I hardly ever call on any local rescuers to help because they are too busy putting others down, but I have some out of state help who will show up in caravans to help clean up & get animals placed in shelters or rescues around the west coast. I also do shelter to shelter bartering, if we have 1 shelter with 40 little dogs who need big dogs I find a shelter with big dogs who will trade that shelter bigs for littles, or vice versa. When an owner comes to me in dire straights I will foster or help them with training or just take the animals in, it does no good to put someone down when they are already there, it doesn’t make you look any better to point a finger at them.
I have left their address, paypal & website addresses up here just in case you would like to donate anyway. That is entirely up to you, maybe you know something I don’t & I don’t want animals to suffer but there are many any other horse rescues in the state who could probably use some help too.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County Non-Profit Organization
My Comment Do you have any idea yet why that horse Sassy was found dead at one of your foster homes yet? Does the lack of food & money for vet care have anything to do with it? I was told she died of colic & that her intestines were all twisted and that it was a very slow & painful death. Why wasn’t anyone aware of her slowly painfully dying? This whole page is just begging for money & other donations, so why are you taking in animals if you can not afford to care for them & why is LAW ENFORCEMENT giving you more when it looks to me (from this page) that you can not afford the ones you already have?
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County Helen – many thanks to you and all the others that have donated to the care for Rosie. This bunch has really hit us hard financially. We’ve got a grant application in and I’ll submit another this coming week and hopefully get some funds with those. We couldn’t help all the critters without the wonderful support from our community members.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County This group has been one of the worst we’ve ever had for sickness. 5 of the 6 had infections. We lost the stallion and this little one’s mama and weren’t sure if Rosie would make it or not but she’s a fighter.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County We have foster homes throughout the county. I also work at Animal Services, 3120 Martin Way and donations can be dropped off there or I can pick up. Email me and we’ll talke, harotc@live.com.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County This group has been one of the worst we’ve ever had for sickness. 5 of the 6 had infections. We lost the stallion and this little one’s mama and weren’t sure if Rosie would make it or not but she’s a fighter.
Diana Holbrook Bless her heart. And her foal. Thanks to HAROTC for trying to do right by the animals put in your care. It is such a valuable service to this community, and means everything for the horses who very much need it. We lost this mare, but at least she knew the compassion of a lot of good people in the end. She died with love, food, medicine, and kind hands looking after her, not alone in the mud. I know the costs don’t end here, and we will continue to do what we can to help pay the bills and care for the ones we have left. I hope everyone will consider even a small donation to enable us to keep doing this work for all who need it now, and will need it in the future. This has been a very expensive impound, and it’s not over.
THE DAY AFTER SASSY DIED!!!!!!
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County PO Box 711, East Olympia, WA 98540 if you do USPS, if you want to ship UPS then Kathy Bailey, 3120 Martin Way E, Olympia, WZA. 98506. Thank you very, very much!!
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County shared a link.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County We can’t forget to thank Animal Services and the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office, without them serving the warrant and removing the animals the horses would not be in our care.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County shared a link.
Officials Seize Emaciated Animals In Thurston County – News Story – KIRO Seattle www.kirotv.com
HAROTC & LPA… Horse Meat dealers, public funds: What else?
Last night I was a little more than upset..
So here is a recap.
Mary Cooper-Ware was the director & co-founder of LPA, & the director & co-founded HAROTC,
Her husband is Lt Mike Ware is the investigating Officer in most of the Thurston County Horse cases,
Connie Patterson was the head of HAROTC is also the Director of Animal Services of Thurston County,
HAROTC has other folks listed as directors & presidents BUT in the newspapers, it is either this Mary Cooper-Ware woman, Bailey woman, or the Patterson Woman who is the “spokesman/director/co-founder.
LPA was trolling craigslist & running ads looking for free livestock to sell to Schorno’s a international horse meat distributor & Premarin foal (pregnant horse pee) dealer.
Mary
Cooper-Ware Claims to not have any knowledge this was happening, but
til 2010 she was still involved with this woman & LPA.Meanwhile she
has publicly admitted she had a Bull at foster with the meat dealer
& that she sold it at auction after it was all healed up, because no
one is going to buy a sick animal to eat.
So my questions (& there are many more questions than answers) were if she has her hand in both then what is happening to the “rescued” horses? HAROTC says they have taken in 417 animals, but their adoptions don’t match the numbers,it says they have only re-homed 32 animals on their petfinder page.There are several stories about them selling rescued animals at auction. What is the point of rescuing them: Just to sell them to be slaughtered???
They have actually used the meat dealer as a “foster” since 1995.
They
also are in the newspapers talking about their latest cases but FAILED
to mention that they gave away one woman’s horse & killed another
one of them.They also like to brag that they have only lost ONE case
against any animals owners, but if the shelter, the rescue & the
investigating officer are all connected then that is a BIG HUGE
IMPROPRIETY.These are public monies, this needs to be investigated by
the Washington State Attorney General’s Office.
Oh & we can’t forget that the Prosecutor Cassandra Jones shows up at the scene when they serve the warrants!!! HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A PROSECUTOR SHOWING UP WHEN A WARRANT IS SERVED? HOW CAN SHE PROSECUTE? ISN’T SHE TECHNICALLY A WITNESS AT THAT POINT?
How many owners KNOW that when Lt Mike Ware shows up at their house they are going down? They then charge the owners 10 to 16K to care for the animals, some they have already given away, or that are dead.They also get grants & funding from Animal Services as well as other parts of City/County Govt, which makes them publicly accountable.Yet they are always saying they have no funds to care for any animals, all they do is newspaper stories about how broke they are & all they do is beg on their facebook page.
Donations are a big part of rescue because MOST rescues don’t get 10 to 16K per seizure, nor do they receive Govt funding.
Here is what the Secretary of State’s Office shows for LPA & HAROTC… I have removed personal addresses
LIVESTOCK PROTECTION ASSOCIATION
UBI Number 601101665
Category REG
Profit/Nonprofit Nonprofit
Active/Inactive Inactive
State Of Incorporation WA
WA Filing Date 08/12/1988
Expiration Date 08/31/2010
Inactive Date 12/01/2010
Duration Perpetual
Registered Agent Information
Agent Name DEBBIE MOSS
Address
City YELM
State WA
ZIP 98597
Governing Persons
Treasurer
Fletcher, Lilli YELM, WA
President
HART, KRIS RAINIER, WA
Director
WARE, MARY ROCHESTER WA
Director
MOSS, DEBBIE YELM, WA
http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?ubi=601101665
HOOVED ANIMAL RESCUE OF THURSTON COUNTY
UBI Number 601912865
Category REG
Profit/Nonprofit Nonprofit
Active/Inactive Active
State Of Incorporation WA
WA Filing Date 11/05/1998
Expiration Date 11/30/2012
Inactive Date
Duration Perpetual
Registered Agent Information
Agent Name John Countryman
Address
City YELM
State WA
ZIP 98597
Address
City EAST OLYMPIA
State WA
Zip 98540
Governing Persons
Treasurer
Countryman, John YELM, WA
Secretary
Holbrook, Diana ROCHESTER, WA
Vice President
Jolley, Bev RAINIER, WA
Vice President
KING, TERESA YELM, WA
President
Bailey, Kathy RAINIER, WA
http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?ubi=601912865
I found this story about Paula Nichols from a person who HATES her guts, who has been hell bent on destroying her, the point is that even HE can see how much bulldoody this story is & he lays it out point by point
Re: Police seize starving fair animals-WA
I think that Thurston County officals and Hooved Animal Rescue did a
real number on Paula Nichols too, following the pattern of attacking
other rescuers. I don’t think that Paula Nichols did anything wrong
except to live in Thurston County.
Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Re: Police seize starving fair animals-WA
Hello, Deborah-Ann.
After Miss Nichols was arrested and charged with the offenses she
committed in Thurston County, I contacted and spoke with Lt. Ware of the
Thurston County Sheriff’s Office.
Re: [REXANO] Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Police seize starving fair animals-WA
http://www.kirotv.com/news/17132596/detail.html
Go to this link, click on the slideshow, and look very carefully at the ribcage of the “emaciated” llama. What I see there is a physical impossibility. It is like there is a huge concavity just back of the right shoulder from about the middle of the torso to the spine, including the spine in a way that would require the crushing of bones to make the shape. Worse than that, that shape simply can’t exist because the spine of any animal has a certain width and the photograph shows zero width from the centerline of the spine to the right side of the animal in the area in question.
The left side of the animal does not match the right side of the animal. The neck is not as emaciated as the appearance of the right side of the torso. The belly is completely normal and is not congruent with the appearance of the right shoulder, ribcage, or withers. The concavity is the result of a really bad attempt to morph that part of the picture. The picture is digitally blurred: Compare it to the news photographs where you can clearly what a shaved llama should look like. The blurring erases some of the tracks from the morphing. The animal that is shown being handled is of a perfectly normal weight.
Llamas don’t come with “an ounce of fat.” That llama is young but quite heavy with muscle, which shows that it is well fed. Any of these images can be saved by using the “Print Scrn” button on a PC compatible, which is just to the right of the F12 key, and pasting into your favorite viewer. Then save as and choose your folder and file name. The victim of this assault on her civil liberties deserves to sue someone over all of this. It’s way too easy for someone like Hooved Animal Rescue to obscure who did what to whom, when, and how, and to try to disclaim responsibility. The whole thing requires a very careful investigation. I want her to have money and sympathetic experts and some kind of pull to get the venue away from the judges that HAR uses. Someone accused me of believing everything that I see in the media. That is probably doublespeak for “doesn’t believe what he sees in the media.” This is ironic because this person uses the media to manipulate people. The “underfed animals” trick is so old it should have gone out with vaudeville. That was no lady… The reason that the news cameras don’t show any emaciated animals is because there were none at the fair. That is a reasonable thing to say when the only photograph that shows emaciation was manipulated, poorly and obviously, and the words of Connie Patterson contradict what is plain to see when she was showing the news crew.
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Here is an article written by a volunteer for HAROTC (obviously) but the comments are very telling, I took out about 50 of them but left one’s that need to be noted. Judging from the comment HAROTC has a history of seizing animals & only showing pix of the animals in bad shape & using lighting to make them look even worse & selling or giving away animals before a case is resolved
But my trainer said they look fine! Aug 31 2009
Another day, another self-centered idiot who refuses to have a number of horses she can actually feed. The best part was her comment in the title – I can’t wait until I can tell you who the trainer is but I can’t say just yet. These came from Yelm, Washington and this afternoon I was on site visiting the seized horses. My pics are below.
See the mare who set herself up, Arab halter-style? That is one heck of a nice quality mare. I can’t wait to find out who she is but the owner ignored the warrant and refused to release the papers. (If you recognize a horse in my pics, by all means, please comment!) The pinto is also a heck of a nice mare who is going to be beautiful with weight on. The horses are Saddlebreds, Arabians and pinto half-Arabians with a few minis thrown in for good measure. The ridiculous teeth belong to a mini stallion with a wry nose. ‘Cause that needs to breed on! I had the opportunity to work a bit with the “wild, uncontrollable” stallion while I was visiting and he needed to be removed from his stall for cleaning. I think it took me a whopping 3 minutes to halter him…as soon as he realized wither scratches feel awesome, he was eager to make friends and get more. I was on the alert, expecting nipping, striking, rearing and other naughty colt behaviors but Taco failed miserably at being a wild, uncontrollable stallion, doing nothing more than backing up a few steps and stopping when he realized, hey, no one was pulling on him and there was no chain. Taco desperately needs 300 lbs and 2 nonessential body parts removed, but after that I suspect someone will have a darn nice show horse in the making.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County has all of these guys going to foster homes this week to continue fattening up and have their feet and other needs attended to. HARTC does a great job in a county where problems are many and funding is scarce and these horses are going to need a lot of help, as you can see.
- grandje says: September 5, 2009 at 3:36 pmIts sad when animals are abused or neglected. I am curious though if I remember correctly there were nearly 30 animals taken yet you only have pictures of 3 or 4 animals? What are the ages of the animals in question? Did any of them have medical issues asside from neglect that could possibly explain a low wieght? I used to have a horse that was over 30 that I couldn’t keep weight on but wasn’t going to put her down as she was not sick or feeble. Pictures aren’t always what they seem, remember when our president looked to be bowing to an arab prince???
- grandje says: September 5, 2009 at 3:44 pmhorslovr says: September 3, 2009 at 9:02 amI accidentally posted this under the srong story So, here it is again, a little modified. The reason that mare set herself up halter is because the trainer primarily does halter. He trains Arabians and is located in the Yelm/Tenino area. He and his wife show in the Arab circuit and have for years. If it is is true that he knowingly kept horses under these conditions with this person, who by the way IS a client of his and has been for several years, it is the most shamful thing I can imagine. Of course, they(trainers) will deny their part in any of this They always do! There are definately those people who should never own animals and are just plain ignorant and then there are these people who know better. They (trainers) are to represent and be an example of how to properly care for a horse. After all this is supposed to be their profession.There are many people in this community who know EXACTLY who he and his wife and the woman who had them are. If those involved with Arabians and any kind of training think about it long enough, they do too! As far as the horse, Taco, she has had this horse for several years supposedly as a rescue. He doesn’t look any better than when she first got him. He was stabled with this trainer, at his barn, for a while. What does that tell you????*Didn’t the person taking the pictures say Taco was two years old? If that is true then your information seems to be incorrect.”
- grandje says: September 5, 2009 at 3:50 pmhorslovr says: September 3, 2009 at 9:02 amI accidentally posted this under the srong story So, here it is again, a little modified.I too have gone to see these horses and the pictures don’t do the level of neglect justice. Pictures do not show the sad, defeated look in their eyes or their frailness. It is by far the saddest thing I have ever seen. Shame on all of them!*I would be curious to see pictures of the other 20 some odd animals to see if all of them are in the same shape. I see pictures above of 3 animals and not much specific information on the rest of the animals. This seems like alot of hatred without much factual information or vet reports.*
- fhotd says: September 5, 2009 at 4:12 pmThere are pictures of 3 or 4 because the volunteers were busy actually working, it was too dark in the barn to get clear pics, and I did not think that making them drag all the horses out for pics was a good use of their time. I assure you, none of these horses are 30 (and even if they were, try reading my old horses thread to see what 30 OUGHT and SHOULD look like). I will out the trainer as soon as I have the ok to do so but it’s obvious the locals have this figured out. All I have to say is, if your horse is in training/on a lease in the Yelm, WA area and you’re NOT checking on him, maybe you might want to do that.
- grandje says: September 11, 2009 at 2:13 amfhotd says: September 5, 2009 at 4:12 pmThere are pictures of 3 or 4 because the volunteers were busy actually working, it was too dark in the barn to get clear pics, and I did not think that making them drag all the horses out for pics was a good use of their time.* Why would they drag all the horses out for pics? The animals would need to be taken out of the barn on the way to whichever trailer is going to take them off of the property, correct? Wouldn’t you need pictures of each animal as well as a vet report on each animal at the time of confiscation in order to show actual neglect? What was the name of the Vet that was on sight to do the animal inspections? *I assure you, none of these horses are 30 (and even if they were, try reading my old horses thread to see what 30 OUGHT and SHOULD look like).
- grandje says: September 12, 2009 at 12:41 pm*chirp chirp* I hear crickets chirping but no answers to my questions… Horslovr… fhotd…??
- sneakers2 says: September 12, 2009 at 10:04 pmInstant idiots…. Obviously most bloggers visiting this site are so narrow-minded they only have one ear!!! I have yet to see a firm and fit 30 year old horse — the equivalent of a 90-year old person. Anyone remember that a horse over 12 years is called a “smooth mouth” for a reason? I do have some information about this seizure. There was no vet present–the vet didn’t examine the animals until the following Tuesday.At the seizure, the horse owner was told “the vet is on the way” but probably had never been notified of the seizure until after the fact.It is unfortunate that many folks open their mouths before checking the facts. Show the photos of all the horses so the bloggers can see these horses were in relatively good condition. It is obvious that most folks involved in the “rescue” don’t which know end of the horse to feed. Perhaps the most assinine comment on the TV coverage was the comment that “this horse’s chest is so thin that it only needs one hole for both legs”. Which rock did this person crawl out from under? ALso was a noted that a pygmy goat was seized because it had a pot belly (OMG) what would have happened with a pot bellied pig? One of the features of pygmy goats is that they have a giant belly (as opposed to Alpine or Nubian goats). Several animals were ponies taken from pasture with the allegation of “worm overload”. Anyone who has owned or been around ponies know that ponies on pasture get hay bellies — and that is not necessarily “neglect”. Questions– there are a lot more questions than answers.
- fhotd says: September 12, 2009 at 10:29 pmI have posted many pictures of “firm and fit” 30 year olds. Check the old horse thread. None of the horses seized was that age, and many were in despicably thin condition. The comment that both legs came out of the same hole on some was sadly perfectly descriptive. I have no doubt after seeing the horses myself that this was a severe case of totally avoidable neglect. And of course, all horses were promptly treated by an excellent vet. But you defenders keep up with the silly statements. They are so easy to prove wrong.
- grandje says: September 18, 2009 at 2:34 pmThank you sneakers for shedding a little more light on the subject. My whole skepticism in this ordeal started when I saw the tv news coverage as well. When they showed the mini’s with hay bellies that were in a pasture it reminded me of a friend of mines who looked the same and were not neglected. It’s starting to sound more and more like an unlawful confiscation of animals under the unfounded “guise” of neglect. It also seems like an abuse of bestowed power and those responsible for the confiscation could/should face criminal charges. People who seemingly act like bullies such as these people are lucky they don’t get shot, although I don’t think the honest pet owners who are being stolen from realize it until after it’s over. This however doesn’t mean I don’t think actual animal cruelty and neglect happens however it seems this is not one of those cases.
- Chelsea says: September 29, 2009 at 12:51 pmI know these horses & people. My step sister Desiree Lewis, she was shown on the interveiw.. only ONE of these horses were rescued. The black Arabian mare, Wago. There is one grey Arabian who is in her late 20′s. & the Pinto mare who is in her 30′s.. STILL THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THERE WEIGHT & CONDITION. I have wanted to call on there horses for years now. I have always told them “they need this & they need that” but my mom always said don’t start anything it’s not your fault & i feel terrible. My sister is daiting her the son of the lady who owns these animals.. They have other animals. About 30 or so more dogs that they did not take that some are in bad condtion as well.. There is a black arabian filly, barley two years old who they bred & has they bay filly at her side… It’s just a shame.. She is skin & bones.. There is one TB they had. The rest are arabians & half arabians.. Poeople like this should not own animals. They don’t have the money, the resorces, or the propor fecility to own & provide for them. I hope they get what they deserve for this.. OH & THERE “TRAINER”. SOME GUY WHO GOT SHUT DOWN BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO PAY HIS RENT MONEY AT A BARN. HES A JOKE. HE TAKES PEOPLES MONEY & PUTS THE HORSES IN THERE STALLS. He isn’t a trainer. He’s a moron who claims he knows what he’s doing but uses harsh “cowboy” methods & the horses come back beaten & broke. But no trainer. ANYONE can abuse an animal.
- Chelsea says: September 29, 2009 at 12:57 pmOh
& also.. Iknow for a FACT these horses haddent been wormed in AGES!
They weren’t on ANY pasture. They were in a DIRT pen with THOUSANDS of
rocks! NO GRASS!! These horses were NOT in “rekativley good shape” these
horses & ponies & gots & sheep were in terrible condition.
So if YOU had any brains YOU should know that. & yes it’s rare to
see a fit horse in there late 20′s & older but that’s no excuse to
be in THAT bad of shape They should have there teeth floated & be on
seinor feed of some sort. KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU TRY
& ACT SMART. What do you say about there hooves? These horses were
kept in UNFAIR conditions. There was NOT ANY ROOM in that small pasture
for all these animals!! There was hardley ANY shelter for no more then 3
at a time. No horses got blanketed in the winter except the 3 older
ones.. SOME PEOPLES NERVE TO ACTUALLY TRY TO DEFEND PEOPLE LIKE THIS! I
know the whole story & i know these people personally..
But what they have done IS W R O N G hello!!
- Desiree says: October 4, 2009 at 10:59 pmThis has gone to far. I am sick of all the slander you do gooders have to offer. This is NOT a case of abuse or neglect. These “Rescuers” have no idea what they are talking about. They can not even figure out names and sexes of these animals. Most of these horses are in there 20′s and 30′s. Feed twice a day with grass hay alfalfa and senior grain. And the water was kept up also. The owner DID NOT state that she only fed twice a week. That is stupid one of those moron rescuers did. I am tierd of this they had 6 horses teeth floated with in this year. And all vet checked this year. How come they NEVER showed pictures of the other horses they have had sence they were babys. And Chelsea the little girl that wrote the blog on Sept. 29th she has no idea what she is talking about. They need to go out and see her horse, she is ungratful. Always leaving the horse alone for days at a time while she goes to her boyfriends house. The horses ribs are showing and he is only 2. He is a blind stud, she wanted to breed him to one of our mares. Also your going to punish some one for doing a good deed. Most of these horses would not even be living if it were not for the owner. People would not look twice a these horses. But the rescue can not even take care of them. As stated in the Olympian.The owner had the money too. And still does. Give the horses back. She did not abuse or neglect them. All of you are negeleting to see the fact that you tore these horses away from there home. The owner loved them like her own children. Oh and to clear something up The bay arabian mare, she is in her late 20s and they did not ride her because she is older. Let the horse be retired thats what mostly all of them are doing. Living the rest of there days out on a nice little farm BEING TAKEN CARE OF!!!! and i am sorry but if one of you do gooders theys to tell me different you have no idea what you are talking about so just shut up and go ride one of your quarter horsesThanks SO much Desiree
- Desiree says: October 4, 2009 at 11:34 pmSlander words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone. Next, time ya’ll decide to take matters into your own hands; just realize your digging your own hole. Must feel good doing that huh…?
- LuvzHerHorses says: October 7, 2009 at 11:05 amI
have quite a bit to say in response to everything posted over the last
month… so please bear with me.Fantasia states Doesnt the dimwit owner
have to be convicted before they can place any of the horses since this
wasn’t a voluntary surrenderNormally yes… But
to prove how screwed up the Hooved Animal Rescue is and how they will
take anyone’s animals to make a few bucks, they put them all up for sale
immediately. Not something I would expect them to admit freely, but
something I happen to know as a fact. They were also suppose to bring a
vet out to the premises to rate these horses before seizing them and
they did not do that either. The
vet did not go to see the horses for three days. So for all we know
they starved them after taking them just so they could have their
pathetic pictures and low ratings.Anna… You seem to think the
horse with the damaged feet is unhappy and in pain have you seen the
horse personally? How do you really know he is unhappy? If you look
closely to the pictures you can see that the horse had a recent feet
trimming. The horse came to her that way and they were in the process of
repairing the damage. Again… this is another case of someone who is
passing judgment without all the facts.
Anyone who feeds their animal the local grass (which I believe she was feeding some of the animals) is going to get the bloated belly. Can I just point out that the lady on the news report contradicted herself when she said the big hay belly… the big belly on the mini is from a worm overload Which is it? A hay belly or worms… you can not have both. Oh and for the record the owner had ALL feces tested and low and behold there were no worms detected.
I would also like to know why, if you watch the news story none of the horses on the story reflect the pictures posted. This takes me back to my above comment of them being starved after they were taken to make the horses look bad.
I happen to know this trainer that everyone keeps referring too. I have four horses at his facility and in his care. I have been going out to his facility 6 days a week for almost a year, when I put my first horse in training with him. I would like to clear a few things up:
First Chelsea needs to shut her mouth because this trainer DOES NOT beat the horses. This trainer has more talent in his little finger then most of the trainers in this area. Most of the trainers around here like to talk trash and spread rumors about other trainers to gain business. This trainer has an amazing bond with all the animals in his care.
Second I do not know where everyone is getting their information but the trainer NEVER said the horses looked fine These animals were NOT at his facility and it was not his responsibility to feed them. I would also like to mention that he ONLY had three of her horse in training at his facility EVER and that was over nine months ago. He has not been involved with the horses since.
Third and finally… Again Chelsea… you need to get your facts straight. The trainer was never shut down because he refused to pay his rent. What happened is really no ones business, but those of us who are close to this trainer and know the truth know what happened. All that needs to be said is that the trainer upheld his end of the contract.
- fhotd says: October 7, 2009 at 11:10 am>>I happen to know this trainer that everyone keeps referring too. I have four horses at his facility and in his care. I have been going out to his facility 6 days a week for almost a year, when I put my first horse in training with him.< <Really? Because I wouldn’t leave a horse there with what the horses in his front yard look like. By the way, which facility are you talking about, the place he’s in now or the place he got foreclosed out of or the place he got kicked out of before that?
- LuvzHerHorses says: October 7, 2009 at 2:17 pmThe fact that you only responded to a very small portion of my response proves that you are making this a personal attack against this trainer, and that is just sad. I don’t understand how this started as a seizure of horses at one persons property to attacking a trainer that had nothing to do with the horses. As far as the two horses out front…. when is the last time you went by there? And do you know ANYTHING about those two horses? I think not… but I do….
- fhotd says: October 7, 2009 at 2:28 pmNo, it proves I’m busy and don’t have enough time to comment endlessly on my own blog. The criminals in this case have been charged and I’ll be posting a new blog entry soon with the update so you can blather away then. I personally attack everybody who neglects horses. That’s one of the main topics of this blog. I’m not singling him out. Every defense on this thread is RIDICULOUS. Age is NEVER an excuse for a horse to be emaciated. I can show you FAT thirty year olds all day.
Here
is another story where they admit to selling the horses at Auction to
get money from 1995, so here is the PROOF that HAROTC sells rescues at
auction, so that is just MORE money in their pockets. Oh & please
note who the director is: Mary Cooper-Ware How could ANYONE support a
“rescue” like this? How disgusting is this?
Severe horse neglect Thurston County, WA (US) Incident Date: Tuesday, Feb 28, 1995 County: Thurston Disposition: Convicted Case Images: 1 files available
Defendants/Suspects:» Wayne Nichols» Rebecca Nichols
Wayne Nichols, 67, and Rebecca “Bunny” Nichols, 61, were ordered at the time not to possess any horses other than those agreed to by a county prosecutor, and to allow them to be inspected periodically. The horses had been confiscated more than a year earlier and later were sold at auction, in part to cover a private group’s costs of care that topped $34,000.
But the 1994-95 Washington state case apparently didn’t come to light at the time, because the couple had entered what’s known as an “Alford plea,” not admitting to the underlying facts, but acknowledging they probably would lose at trial a procedure legally seen as a guilty plea.
A Medford woman who became aware of the couple’s arrest contacted Mary Ware of Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County (http://www.har-otc.com/), who was involved in the previous case and passed on information about it officials in Bend.
PETFINDER INFO: ADOPTED ANIMALS so where are the other 385 animals??? So where is the money from the animals that are auctioned off?
Adopted Pets from Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County (Olympia, WA)
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