Here are my blog posts about Ms Turner's situation. I will be adding the documents she gave me as time permits, just remember I don't write anything without documentation. The full HORROR of what happens to the animals in the care of Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County didn't hit home until I found out they were using a horse meat dealer for a "foster",  home & they admit to selling "rescued" animals to this person. I have people working on this so I will not be writing too much more until I get the word from them.

(they claim that they took excellent care of the animals... OF COURSE THEY DID, who wants to eat a skinny or sick animal???)

Things that don’t make sense in so many AC cases.

UPDATE: WE HAVE LEARNED THAT ONE OF THE “HEALTHY” HORSES HAS DIED – CAT THE 15 YR OLD MARE,AT THE HANDS OF THE CARE OF HER RESCUERS, HOOVED ANIMAL CARE, NO REASON HAS BEEN GIVEN & MS TURNER WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE HER OR HAVE A VET CHECK HER. AT THIS POINT ALL SHE KNOWS IS THAT THE HORSE HAS DIED & IS SCHEDULED FOR A NECROPSY BY A VET WHO IS NOT ACCREDITED TO DO NECROPSIES. THIS WAS ONE OF THE SEEMINGLY BETTER OFF HORSES THAT THEY HAVE HAD IN THEIR POSSESSION FOR ABOUT 4 MONTHS, (PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS NOT IN THE NEWSPAPERS & THEY CONSISTENTLY SAY THAT THE FEMALE HORSES ARE FINE & THE MALE IS COMING ALONG VERY WELL) WHY ISN’T THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE??? THE LAST REPORT ON 12/3/2012 (THAT I CAN FIND) SAYS THE HORSES ARE DOING WELL & DAYS LATER ONE IS DEAD?

Maybe it is just that the reporters screw things up, but when you start to follow some of these stories it makes you just scratch your head…

But…  Look closer: This is classic, subliminal programming designed to evoke an emotional response, designed to make this woman a monster, to get you emotionally involved & attached to the story, to ensure that there is a conviction & that you will never question. I have only included a couple of many stories but it will give you an idea of what is going on.

ALL OF THE ARTICLES INCLUDE:

1) THE WOMAN’S FULL NAME

2) THE WOMAN’S AGE

3) HER HOME ADDRESS

4) HER COURT DATES

5) THE ANIMALS NAMES

6) CLOSE UP PHOTOS OF THE ANIMALS

BY GIVING YOU ALL OF THIS INFORMATION THE “MONSTER” HAS A NAME, A FACE, & YOU BECOME EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED IN THE STORY, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY REPORT EVERY WEEK ABOUT TRIVIAL THINGS, ONE DOG GAINED 3 LBS OR THAT THEY ARE DOING WELL IS KEEPING YOU ENGAGED & INVOLVED, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY EMOTIONALLY ATTACHED.

THIS IS THE FIRST WOMAN BEING CHARGED WITH THE NEW ANIMAL CONTROL LAWS IN THE STATE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HER, SHE IS A “TEST RUN” THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE YOU THAT THE TOTAL UTTER DESTRUCTION OF YOUR CIVIL RIGHTS IS “GOOD”, THEY HAVE TO CONVINCE YOU THEY ARE “PROTECTING ANIMALS” AND THAT IT SHOULD HAPPEN AT ALL COSTS, JUST LIKE WITH THE PATRIOT ACT.

EVEN MORE SINISTER IS THAT THEY ARE GIVING YOU ALL OF HER PERSONAL INFORMATION… ARE THEY HOPING THAT SOMEONE WILL COME AND KILL HER, HURT HER, OR DESTROY HER PROPERTY SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER NEWS STORY, MAYBE SAVE THE COST & EXPENSE OF GOING TO COURT? 

YOU ALSO HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHY THEY TOOK THE HORSES, DOGS & A PIG BUT LEFT ALL OF HER CHICKENS, & RABBITS.

Here is an example

Animals seized in Boston Harbor area

Tony Overman   The Olympian
Ray Spragg and Erika Johnson of Thurston County Animal Services escort two Great Danes removed from a farm on Boston Harbor Road on Wednesday.
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BY NATE HULINGS; Staff writer
Published: 09/15/11 1:42 am | Updated: 09/15/11 1:42 am

Animal Services officers assisted by the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office went onto the property in the 6300 block of Zangle Road Northeast, near Boston Harbor just before 11 a.m. and removed the animals. The Great Danes, one male and one female, are underweight and looked emaciated, Animal Services officer Erika Johnson said.

A veterinarian gave the four seized horses a checkup Tuesday, concluding the three mares and emaciated stallion were in poor enough health for authorities to act.

The stallion was “on death’s door,” Hooved Animal Rescue vice president Teresa King said Wednesday.

This is not the first time Animal Services has come to the residence on calls concerning animals, Johnson said. The resident is not being named because she has yet to be charged.

Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Cassandra Jones was on site and said she didn’t want to speculate on possible charges until she receives the report.

THEY WILL GIVE THE ADDRESS BUT NOT THE NAME?

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UNDER VET’S CARE

Some animals seized at farm near Olympia show signs of improvement

Animal Services takes part in a seizure near Boston Harbor Road Wednesday.
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NATE HULINGS; Staff writer
Published: 09/15/11 4:52 pm | Updated: 09/15/11 5:00 pm

Animals seized near Olympia are under veterinary care and showing signs of improvement, Animal Services officials say.

The two Great Danes have gained two pounds each but remain in critical condition, said Animal Services director Susanne Beauregard.

Things are looking better for the small cattle dog, which was not as emaciated as the Great Danes.

Animal Services and the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office went onto the property in the 6300 block of Zangle Road Northeast, near Boston Harbor, late Wednesday morning and removed the animals. Animal Services can be reached at 360-352-2510.

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Woman charged with animal cruelty

6 counts: Emaciated animals seized at her home last month

JEREMY PAWLOSKI | Staff writer • Published October 18, 2011

A 28-year-old woman is charged with three counts of felony animal cruelty and three counts of misdemeanor failure to provide humane care in connection with an animal seizure at her home in the 6300 block of Zangle Road on Sept. 13.

Rebecca Lynn Turner was charged late Friday with the six counts in Thurston County Superior Court. She must appear before a judge for her arraignment Oct. 25, court papers state.

Two of the first-degree animal cruelty counts are for the alleged negligence in caring for the two Great Danes, named Raja and Nemesis. As of Friday, both dogs were recovering at a local veterinary hospital. Both dogs had gained approximately 37 pounds.

WAIT A MINUTE I THOUGHT ONE GAINED 33 AND ANOTHER GAINED 38 POUNDS, WERE ARE THE DETAILS?

Another first-degree animal cruelty count is for alleged negligence in caring for a 4-year-old paint stallion named Carlos. Court papers do not update the current status of Carlos’ health. The horse lost a dramatic amount of weight since he was purchased by Turner in April. “No apparent reason exists for the lack of weight on this horse … other than lack of food.”

The misdemeanor counts of failure to provide humane care are for alleged negligence in caring for a 22-year-old Arabian mare named Sassy, a 15-year-old Arabian mare named Cat, and a 2-year-old paint mare named Chevrolet. Those three horses were in poor condition but were not as severely emaciated as Carlos, court papers state.

Jeremy Pawloski: 360-754-5465
jpawloski@theolympian.com

Read more here: http://www.theolympian.com/2011/10/18/1842474/woman-charged-with-animal-cruelty.html?storylink=fb#storylink=cpy

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Washington Woman Charged With Starving Several Animals

October 20, 2011 7:14 AM
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Photo shows two Great Danes that were seized from the home of  Rebecca Lynn Turner in Olympia. (credit: Joint Animal Services of Olympia)

Photo shows two Great Danes that were seized from the home of Rebecca Lynn Turner in Olympia. (credit: Joint Animal Services of Olympia)

OLYMPIA, Wash. (CBS Seattle) — A Washington woman could face years behind bars for allegedly starving several animals.

The Thurston County Sheriff’s Office has charged Rebecca Lynn Turner with three counts of felony animal cruelty.

Eight animals were seized from her home last month during a raid. Joint Animal Services of Olympia took hold of four horses, three dogs, and one pot-bellied pig.

Animal Services described the dogs as drastically underweight when taken from Turner’s home.

“Both dogs have gained a tremendous amount of weight. The female has gained 37 pounds and the male has gained slightly less in the short time that we have had them.”

The horses and pig also showed signs of starvation when they were seized.

Turner will be arraigned on Oct. 25.

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‘CRITICALLY THIN’

2 dogs, pig, horses seized in Olympia area recovering well

Two Great Danes described as “critically thin” two months ago after being seized from an Olympia-area residence have gained considerable weight and are recovering in foster homes, according to Animal Services officials.

Courtesy of Erika Quinn Johnson Erika Johnson is the Animal Control Officer so why is she handing out EVIDENCE to the local media before the defendant or her attorney got it?
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NATE HULINGS; Staff writer
Published: 12/03/11 4:36 pm | Updated: 12/04/11 7:12 am

Two Great Danes described as “critically thin” two months ago after being seized from an Olympia-area residence have gained considerable weight and are recovering in foster homes, according to Animal Services officials.

Raja, the female, weighed 66 pounds at time of the raid and is now 113 pounds; Nemesis, the male, has gained 38 pounds. He came into the shelter weighing 77 pounds, said Connie Patterson, Animal Services’ shelter manager.

The four horses that were also seized are improving and receiving care from Hooved Animal Rescue, including Carlos, a 4-year-old paint stallion. The stallion was in the worst condition of the four, given a 1 rating on a body-condition scale of 1-10. Carlos is now rated a 5 and is becoming more active, Patterson said.

Rebecca Lynn Turner, 28, was charged in October with three counts of felony animal cruelty and three counts of misdemeanor failure to provide humane care. A pretrial hearing is scheduled next week; her trial is tentatively scheduled the week of Jan. 16.

None of the animals seized has been adopted, pending the result of the trial.

Nate Hulings: 360-754-5476 nhulings@theolympian.com www.theolympian.com/outsideoly

 

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County? What is really going on? ?


Okay we all know I take issues with “rescues” that are run by City & County Shelter employees. The 2 things need to be separated.

It is a good chance that if you live in Thurston County if your animals are seized they are going there, to that rescue, that is run by a shelter employee.

There was a raid in September & there was 4 horses seized, 1 was returned to it’s former owner, 2 are still there & the fourth “Sassy” died of colic, the vet’s report stated her intestines were twisted, & that is was a very slow & painful death, finally ending with an intestinal rupture. UNDER THE CARE OF A HOOVED ANIMAL RESCUE FOSTER HOME’S CARE.  Please keep in mind this happened on January 9th 2012 & the horses were seized on September 14th 2011.

For those of you don’t know what colic in horses looks like here it is;

The horse bites at it’s stomach, they thrash on the ground, they don’t just lay down, they drop to the ground they open their mouths like they are gasping for air, they kick their legs, they attempt to roll over but they never are able to roll all the way over, their backs are arched up from the pain & they look like hunchbacks, then they get up bite & kick at their own stomachs. Their whole bodies are covered in sweat, their gums are white, their eyes bulge from their head & are bloodshot, they are nervous, unable to be comforted, they grunt because they are straining to push the gas through but it hurts them so badly they can’t even whinny.

It is a very slow & horribly painful death that can last for days. For those of you who  don’t know this, a horse can not throw up but colic most times is a simple matter of care, the horse merely has to POOP, so a good caretaker will simply walk the horse & keep it moving until it does so, if it doesn’t then a vet is called out & the puts a tube down the horses nose & pumps in some medicine to fix the problem.

So how do you NOT notice this? How does a horse languish in this kind of AGONY & NO ONE notices? Her intestines RUPTURED from the pressure, can you possibly imagine that kind of pain?

I run a rescue, donations from the public are the ONLY way we can succeed, or even attempt to help animals. I can have all the “dreams” & good intentions in the world but it wouldn’t be possible without the love of others. I also understand that all it takes is one medical emergency & you are completely out of funds. (Been there did it!!!)

I also understand that when someone gives me their hard earned money I have the obligation to be honest with them & let them know exactly how I spent their monies, it is a moral obligation but it is also a legal obligation. I have been blessed with good donors, people who have donated 5 dollars to 25 hundred dollars. That is why when the nutbag Rose started her crap about me taking donations & spending them on stupid things I had to laugh because HELLO!!! I am an accountant & I keep impeccable books, & every donor knows where their money is going. It can happen that you get several emergencies & you end up in the horrid situation I did, honestly I could’ve said well “that” dog was too old & just opted to euthanize her & called it a day: but I have to live with myself, & eventually I will have to answer to a higher power. I took her out of that shelter & I made her a promise that I would do everything in my power to help her & by God I did. It is a fine line & it is a hard road.

So the constant requests for donations: I get that, what I don’t get is the County Employee/Rescue operator who is getting cash grants from a shelter to run her rescue, & also getting animals from the shelter & law enforcement when she doesn’t have the funds to care for them.

Not once do they mention that this horse is dead, or how it died, the day after she died they were again requesting donations, & they are trying to charge this Rebecca Turner woman 10K to care for her 4 horses when they don’t have 1 of them & they let one of them die, they did not need any extraordinary vet care, just support, AND they are also claiming the last group of 6 horses they took in cost 10K to take care of, when 2 of them died & they continually post about spending 2 to 4 thousand dollars on their vet care. Is 10K the “standard” price they charge every time they take an animals in every time. If they are getting 10K for every raid they take animals in from then why do they still need donations, sounds VERY lucrative to me.

They don’t even have to go out & look for horses, they are delivered right to their door, so along with what they are charging owners & what they are getting from the County Shelter, they should be pretty self sufficient. Where are those county funds coming from? County taxes? Community Donations?

I went looking for their Facebook page after getting all of this info & sure enough, no mention of the horse who died, & as I was told they said the last group of 6 horses were the “worst they had ever seen” but: In the newspaper reports they did they claimed the 4 horses from September were.

I have never dealt with this rescue, from the looks of it I will never, as a matter of fact I will not ever refer anyone to them, I don’t see them as an organization that is out for the animals, I see them grabbing at the media straws, milking it for everything it’s worth, they are misrepresenting themselves giving updates on the pig & dogs also seized when they never had them. Worst of all they have something horrid to say about almost everyone. Typical rescue high school drama.

If these rescues worked as hard as I do & many other rescues or shelters that you DON’T see in the newspapers every day to prevent this & help owners who are in trouble then there would be far less suffering for animals. I do free shots, free flea treatments, free wormers, free dog & cat food. I help people who are overwhelmed with too many critters get their numbers down, or simply help  them clean up their homes & surroundings. Sadly when I get a person with too many animals I hardly ever call on any local rescuers to help because they are too busy putting others down, but I have some out of state help who will show up in caravans to help clean up & get animals placed in shelters or rescues around the west coast. I also do shelter to shelter bartering, if we have 1 shelter with 40 little dogs who need big dogs I find a shelter with big dogs who will trade that shelter bigs for littles, or vice versa. When an owner comes to me in dire straights I will foster or help them with training or just take the animals in, it does no good to put someone down when they are already there, it doesn’t make you look any better to point a finger at them.

I have left their address, paypal & website addresses up here just in case you would like to donate anyway. That is entirely up to you, maybe you know something I don’t & I don’t want animals to suffer but there are many any other horse rescues in the state who could probably use some help too.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County Non-Profit Organization

My Comment Do you have any idea yet why that horse Sassy was found dead at one of your foster homes yet? Does the lack of food & money for vet care have anything to do with it? I was told she died of colic & that her intestines were all twisted and that it was a very slow & painful death. Why wasn’t anyone aware of her slowly painfully dying? This whole page is just begging for money & other donations, so why are you taking in animals if you can not afford to care for them & why is LAW ENFORCEMENT giving you more when it looks to me (from this page) that you can not afford the ones you already have?

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County I just got the latest vet bill that covers the mare and foal’s hospitalization, it’s over $4,000…OUCH!! We have to put our emergency fund on hold until we get a grant to cover that fund. We hate to do this but have no choice. At this point we are unable to take on any more animals from law enforcement until we get some funds coming in. Does anyone locally want to donate any money, hay, etc? We need good quality alfalfa for our skinny ones and good grass for our others. Let me know if you can help in any way. No donation is too small.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County Helen – many thanks to you and all the others that have donated to the care for Rosie. This bunch has really hit us hard financially. We’ve got a grant application in and I’ll submit another this coming week and hopefully get some funds with those. We couldn’t help all the critters without the wonderful support from our community members.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County This group has been one of the worst we’ve ever had for sickness. 5 of the 6 had infections. We lost the stallion and this little one’s mama and weren’t sure if Rosie would make it or not but she’s a fighter.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County We have foster homes throughout the county. I also work at Animal Services, 3120 Martin Way and donations can be dropped off there or I can pick up. Email me and we’ll talke, harotc@live.com.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County This group has been one of the worst we’ve ever had for sickness. 5 of the 6 had infections. We lost the stallion and this little one’s mama and weren’t sure if Rosie would make it or not but she’s a fighter.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County Here’s a picture of the foal. She’s pretty rough looking but is doing better every day. The foster home has named her Rosie. She has just finished 3 weeks of IV antibioitics and will now be on oral anitibiotics for a few weeks. Her bloodwork is continuing to improve weekly. We have over $10,000 into this group of 6 horses. It’s nice to see this little girl pull through this.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County UPDATE – The foal is doing well. If all goes good this weekend she will move into a foster home on Monday. She will continue on the IV antibiotics for at least another week. Keep the prayers coming for this young girl. Donations are greatly appreciated. This group of sick horses has severely depleted our funds. If the TC Sheriff’s Office called us to help with another large group we may not be able to take them on financially. Donations can be sent to PO Box 711, East Olympia, WA 98540 or by Paypal on our webpage, www.har-otc.com. Thank you everyone that has donated so far.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County Sadly the mare that we had hospitalized at the vet’s with her foal took a turn for the worse today and had to be euthanized. This sucks! But the reality of the situation is if the owner had sought treatment when these horses first showed signs of sickness the outcome would probably be better. We’re praying that the foal continues to improve but we know that things can change in a heartbeat. Everyone keep this little one in your thoughts.

Diana Holbrook Bless her heart. And her foal. Thanks to HAROTC for trying to do right by the animals put in your care. It is such a valuable service to this community, and means everything for the horses who very much need it. We lost this mare, but at least she knew the compassion of a lot of good people in the end. She died with love, food, medicine, and kind hands looking after her, not alone in the mud. I know the costs don’t end here, and we will continue to do what we can to help pay the bills and care for the ones we have left. I hope everyone will consider even a small donation to enable us to keep doing this work for all who need it now, and will need it in the future. This has been a very expensive impound, and it’s not over.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County HELP NEEDED!! We recently got in several sick horses from the TC Sheriff’s Office. These are some of the sickest horses we’ve seen in a very, very long time. So far the first week’s vet bills are already almost $3,000 and we still have more vet visits, labwork, and meds that we haven’t received the bills on and this was only for the first week. This doesn’t include the feed, bedding, supplements, etc. that is needed. We would appreciate any donations sent our way. Most of the horses are on the mend but it’s going to be a long road. January 10th.

THE DAY AFTER SASSY DIED!!!!!!

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County PO Box 711, East Olympia, WA 98540 if you do USPS, if you want to ship UPS then Kathy Bailey, 3120 Martin Way E, Olympia, WZA. 98506. Thank you very, very much!!

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County shared a link.

Two Great Danes described as critically thin two months ago after being seized from an Olympia-area residence have gained considerable weight and are recovering in foster homes, according to Animal Services officials.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County The 4 horses from the seizure the other day are all doing well. They now have full bellies, plenty of fresh water, shelter from the weather, and some positive human interaction. Can’t ask for much more. The dogs also are holding in there, eating and gaining weight. Mr. Pig has a fracture so he’s on strict cage rest to help start the healing process. Prayers for all of them to make it through. Kudos to all the vet staff and foster homes helping in their care.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County We can’t forget to thank Animal Services and the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office, without them serving the warrant and removing the animals the horses would not be in our care.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County There are 4 horses involved in this seizures.

Thurston County Sheriff’s Office and Animal Services have seized several animals at a residence of 6300 block of Boston Harbor Road Southeast.
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County shared a link.

Officials Seize Emaciated Animals In Thurston County – News Story – KIRO Seattle www.kirotv.com

THURSTON COUNTY, Wash. — Officials seize emaciated and injured animals from a property north of Olympia. Wednesday, September 14, 2011. Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County We would like to thank the Thurston County Humane Society for their grant that has allowed us to provide financial assistance to County residents in need this past year. Our Emergency Fund is available for vet care, farrier, and feed. Many of the recipients are referred to us by the Sheriff’s Office and just need a helping hand. Share · August 8, 2011 at 9:28am

UPDATED: On the Rebecca Turner/Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County case…


***In looking over the records that Ms Turner let me copy I realized I made a few mistakes, so the corrections will be in red

Okay to catch you all up to speed. In September of 2011 Lt Ware of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Dept , Thurston County AC & Hooved animal Rescue of Thurston County showed up with a warrant & the prosecuting attorney Cassandra Jones & took 3 dogs, 1 pig & 4 horses from Rebecca Turner

The newspapers printed her FULL NAME ADDRESS & ALL THE NAMES OF THE DOGS. It also seems that every time the dogs cough fart or sneeze they do a story about it. The stress from all of this has caused a miscarriage for Ms Turner but God in his mercy has seen  fit to send her another angel.

Okay so let’s go over the main points

1) One of the dogs had EPI or something like that & WAS severely underweight, Ms Turner had been working on resolving it & was adamant about raw diet. The clinic she was ORDERED to take them to decided she was being unreasonable about it because she wouldn’t do as they said. The vet records stated the dog did not have EPI but they treated the dog for the EPI for several weeks after they were seized, (Why would they treat an animal for something they didn’t have?)

(DISCLAIMER: Some people especially those in the sporting dog arena & the Great Dane Community firmly believe that a sign of a healthy dog is to be able to see at least 3 of the ribs, the Dane puppies I had looked horrid to me but to every Dane breeder said they looked GREAT I got so stressed that I gave the dang puppies away & I won’t take Great Danes or mixes anymore because I don’t feel like I am qualified to do so)

2) While in the care of the shelter those same two dogs have lost 2 toes, & part of their tail, (It was 2 tails & 1 toe sorry about that)

3) There was also a cattledog they said was underweight, it was not.

4) There was a pig that had been kicked by a horse as a youngster & had a lame leg, it is unknown what has become of the pig, Hooved Animal Rescue claims to have a pot bellied pig but Ms Turner’s paperwork says he is at the shelter under their care. In looking at her vet records I don’t see where any surgery or emergent care was ever done for the pig, or that it was ever needed. (Pig’s name is Quinn)

5) It should be noted: In all of the newspaper stories the shelter claims the dogs were hanging on by a thread & all the other dramatic bells & whistles but according to the paperwork I read NONE of the animals required emergent care, only support (I forgot to add that most of the animals weren’t even seen by a vet til days after they were taken, & I don’t see a full blood panel on any of the horses which is strange since according to the drama queens they were at death’s door…)

6) Hooved animal Rescue let one horse die of colic,4 months after she was taken, actually it wasn’t the colic that killed her it was her intestines rupturing from all the pressure, it was a very slow painful & VERY OBVIOUS DEATH, but they were on their facebook pages begging for donations & even gave a newspaper interview about what great shape they were in… DEAD IS NOT GOOD. Not one mention on their facebook page, their rescue page or to the reporter that two of the animals they were begging for money for were no longer even with them

7) They also failed to mention that at that time they also did not have the male horse they claimed was on death’s door, he had been given to the person Ms Turner bought him from originally with NO FORFEITURE ORDER. Oh I should add that he was very very skinny because Ms Turner had bred him to one of her horses & then separated them & he was very upset about that, I don’t know why she separated them or why she didn’t just put them back together once she noticed his weight loss.

8) Hooved animal rescue showed up with the Sheriff & the Prosecutor & AC agents but there was no warrant to take the Horses & the horses were never listed as being taken on the inventory sheet.

9) Now I have forgotten if it is Chevy or Cat but one of them was pregnant when they were taken, I also said in a previous story it was Cat who died, that is what Ms Turner was told but it ended up being Sassy but she has no real way of knowing that for sure either, just that there is a missing foal, & the rescue only has 2 horses. (It was definitely Chevy who was pregnant but there has been no mention of a baby yet so I hate to tell Ms Turner this but maybe it really was Chevy who died, they don’t seem to know who is who & I asked Ms Turner if she had seen pictures of the horse who died or seen his body & she has not)

What bothers me the most about this whole story is that every single horse seizure involves the same Sheriff & the same animal control officer, the lady who runs the rescue is also employed by the shelter, so she doesn’t even have to go out looking for rescues she just waits & follows the officer around.

The rescue also receives grants from the shelter & in every single story I have read up on Hooved Animal Rescue ALWAYS says it was 10K to take care of the animals, ALWAYS… Yet they are always begging for donations on their facebook talking about how they don’t have enough money to take any more horses in or that they can’t take care of the one’s they have now.

Why are they taking in horses if you don’t have the money to do so?

Why aren’t they telling the truth about animals dying a horrid death while in their “care”?

Why are they forfeiting animals that are NOT their property yet still begging for money for him.

I have found Ms Turner to be very forthcoming, she freely shared all of her documents, with me, she didn’t try to make excuses to me, all I got was her pain at being separated from her animals. You all should know me by now & if there is a chance someone is going to get rubbed the wrong way I am just the one to do it. Every single question I fired off at her she answered, but she did very well at explaining the medical aspects.

I have to admit, I called her & I asked her to describe to me in detail what her horses death was like, she started out very clinical, then I guess the full realization hit her that it wasn’t a symptom flow chart, that it was her horse that she knew, that she had brushed, that she had spent time with & that she loved, & she broke down, then I felt like a jackass so I had a rancher friend of mine tell me the signs & symptoms & he even cried, a grown cowboy CRIED when he was explaining to me how painful that her death must’ve been & how OBVIOUS, he has had horses for 62 years & he said there was no way she wasn’t showing symptoms :~(…

Keep in mind though they identified the wrong horse at first, so no one knows which horse is really dead, for all she knows it could’ve been the pregnant horse Chevy that died…

Ms Turner has taken other people’s advice & is now using an attorney, & it may have been fate because the attorney she has now kicks some serious ass, pun intended!

I think the Washington State attorney General needs to do an audit into the shelter & the rescue’s finances though. If they are making 10K for every seizure (you can look it up too) PLUS the donations, PLUS the grants from the shelters. They are sitting pretty good, maybe a little too good.

With all of that money at their disposal why aren’t they doing more community outreach so horses & their owners don’t get in this condition?

Maybe they should consult with Kitsap County Humane so they can “teach” them how to do it. Kitsap runs a very successful Horse food bank & you hardly ever if at all hear any stories about emaciated horses out there.

*** It has also come to my attention that the newspaper & the rescue have some kind of family ties which explains why the stories are ALWAYS slanted to shine the light of God on the rescue but in looking over the comments I copied & pasted from the Hooved Animal Rescue facebook page I noticed something, there is a woman from DSHS who is making very physical threats against Ms Turner saying she doesn’t think she could control herself… I am definitely going to investigate that further. I am also wondering WHAT this woman’s connection to the breeder is, & I am searching my records to find if this woman is one of the people I got an email about from a Dane Rescuer who had some Great Danes & horses that were in horrible condition over in Gig Harbor, but this woman lived in a mobile home. I remember there were pictures & they were heartbreaking,& pretty disgusting. I’ll let you know what I find out!

This just gets weirder & weirder… Hooved Animal Care of Thurston County!!!!


The problem with investigating anything to do with animal seizure cases is trying to sort through all the garbage.

Occasionally some one who has ever tried to “adopt” an animal from certain rescues has felt the wrath of the condescending mightier than thou attitude, not all rescues are like this, but some are. My experience has been that “those” ones are run by women who are emotionally lacking, controlling, manipulative & have no joy in life but to put other people down… If that fails they try to destroy other people: I have been the victim of them & have seen others almost destroyed as well.

Anyway I was re-reading all the posts from HOROTC‘s facebook page & I keep seeing this name Mary Cooper-Ware. Isn’t there a Lt. Mike Ware who is the Officer that ALWAYS seems to be at the heart of all of the Thurston County seizures? I have seen a few articles where Mrs Ware is acting as the spokesman for HOROTC

Okay so this is what I got:

Mary Cooper-Ware at some point co-founded Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County with a lady named Connie Patterson

BUT:

Mary Cooper-Ware also started something called Livestock Protection Association with a lady last named Kris Hart.

Paws magazine did an interview with Mary Cooper-Ware which mentions that this Kris Hart woman was selling the rescue horses & advertising on Craigslist looking for horses to sell to a local horse meat dealer, Larry Schorno, Mary Cooper-Ware said she was in disdain for her partner selling horses to slaughter

Okay so are you following me? Mary Cooper-Ware is listed as the Director of LPA til 2010, & HOROTC, as well

Mary Cooper-Ware is listed as the Founder, but now her name is no where on the IRS 990 Tax forms for HOROTC

Mary Cooper-Ware is listed as the Director of LPA til 2010 until the non-profit went defunct, so obviously she wasn’t too disgusted with her partner for selling animals to slaughter.

This article is HORRIFYING, I can’t even begin to explain it so I have included excerpts of it & added my own comments in pink:

PAWS Magazine Issue 40, Winter 1999 Mary Grows Wary

by Mike Jones PAWS Investigator http://www.paws.org/paws-magazine-issue40-page4.html

A white sport-utility vehicle pulled into the parking lot, empty this autumn day but for the car of a visitor seeking a tour of a stable facility in Olympia. From the passenger side emerged Mary Ware, cofounder of the Livestock Protection Association. At the wheel was her husband, Lieutenant Mike Ware of the Thurston County Sheriff’s office. Okay so that answers my question as to how Mary Cooper-Ware & Lt Mike Ware are connected.

“I’ve given up,” said Mary. “I’ve given up on education. These people just don’t want to be educated. “It’s really difficult to rehabilitate adults regarding animal husbandry,” Mary continued. “You can only hope to teach the young.” Here is that “Holier than Thou” attitude I spoke of which Mrs Ware seems to have had since 1999

Mary’s husband led the seizure of Jack Burnham’s animals in Rainier.Burnham was accused of allowing his animals to live in extremely unsanitary conditions. Lieutenant Ware videotaped the scene while standing waste-deep in manure, and cited Burnham for every animal on his property, fifteen counts in all. Mary said Burnham “did not have any dry spots” for his animals. Burnham allowed eleven head of cattle to be sold. The Livestock Protection Association assumed the care of three horses and a bull. Waste deep? Really?

“We had to let the bull go,” said Mary. “Once he received veterinary care” (including the removal of the ingrown twine halter from his face) “and got cleaned up, well, he realized he was a bull. He became quite a handful.” After a month of private foster care, the bull was sold at auction. Translation we sold the bull to slaughter, um but don’t ask where the money from his meat went… If she has no problem selling “rescued” animals to slaughter then what about the rest of the animals from 1988 to 2012???

“People are so innovative that if you had a law for every little scam, you’d have thousands more laws on the books,” she said. “Meat dealers are coming to people’s homes after seeing ads in the paper, promising to give horses to good homes, then taking them to slaughter.” Isn’t that what Kris Hart was doing? I wonder how many people gave horses to these women thinking they were going to “rescue”.

Weeks after this visit to the stables, Mary would receive information that would only add to her disdain over the machinations of so-called “animal rescue.” Mary would learn that her partner in the LPA, Kris Hart, had been placing ads in a local horse publication seeking horses for good homes, drafting horses for Larry Schorno, the local kingpin of draft-horse dealing. So she just “learned” about it? Where exactly did she think the horses were going that had been “rescued”?

Kris Hart and Mary Ware formed the Livestock Protection Association in 1988. Through a sheriff’s deputy Hart met Ware, who was involved with Concern for Animals, and the two decided to focus on farm animals. Based in Thurston County, the LPA has rescued horses, cattle, sheep, pigs, goats, chickens, rabbits and others from neglect. “The majority of the cases are horses and of course most of my experience is with horses,” said Hart. “Horses, you know, are my first love.Love for money, love for meat, love for what? Aren’t you GLAD she doesn’t “love” any of you this much? YIKES!

Horses are the first priority of Schorno Agri-Business & Pacific Rim Quarantine, which, as its sign reads, is a “LIVE ANIMAL EXPORT FACILITY.” Representatives of the company make regular pilgrimages to Canada to bid on Premarin foals, the by-product of the growing trade in pregnant mare urine. The Premarin newborns are usually draft horses, their mothers in demand because of the volume of urine produced by the large mares. “The Schorno business primarily is draft horses,” said Hart. “And any of their riding-horse business I am very familiar with because I’m involved in it.”

Rubber sacks are strapped around their groins to capture the urine, valued at $12 to $17 per gallon. For most of the gestation period of 11 months, the mares are unable to turn around. Though horses can lock their legs and doze standing up, they must lie down for essential deep sleep; strong ropes secured to their heads prevent reclining. The bags strapped to them often cause sores and infections. The mares’ access to water is limited to manage the urine’s concentration of estrogen. Reports vary on the amount of sunlight and exercise these mares are allowed, but given the value of their “product,” the logistics of collecting it, and the fact that the cycle’s peak urine production occurs during the winter months, the mares’ “free time” is likely to be extremely limited. After the mare foals, she is separated from her baby, pushed back through Premarin production line and bred as soon as two weeks later. Hundreds of surviving Premarin foals cross the border from Canada in trucks bound for Yelm and Schorno Agri-Business. Most of these foals are exported to Japan to be eaten.

Some of the horses Larry Schorno and his employees have flown to Japan on Federal Express 747s were purchased for that purpose by Kris Hart.A member of the Schorno family placed ads in a Western Washington horse newspaper distributed free at area tack and feed shops. The ads offered to find “good homes” for unwanted horses. The ads encouraged respondents to call a phone number, Kris Hart’s phone number. “That’s what tipped me off,” said Penny Swanson, publisher of what then was called Puget Sound Horse and Tack. Swanson, who shortened the paper’s name to Horse and Tack and has since sold it to another publisher, was offended that a horse-rescue activist was helping to obtain horses for export to Japan, where they are likely to be a featured item on the dinner table of those “good homes.” Swanson refused to run the ad further. Okay is this Kris Hart a member of the Schorno family? Was this whole “rescue” started to get free horses to sell for slaughter, with donations to sweeten the deal by an unsuspecting public who thought they were helping animals find homes, not being featured as this evenings dinner.

Some of Schorno’s exported horses were targeted by Hart, who responded to classified ads offering horses free to good homes. “We’ve definitely done it,” said Hart when asked about responding to free-horse ads. But, she added, “none of the LPA horses ever get tangled up in export.” Um… How do we know that? Can we have a full accounting of every animal you took in & their adoptive homes?

Like Hart, Larry Schorno straddles the fence between animal salvation and animal exploitation. He provided a foster home for the bull the LPA could no longer handle. Okay so Mary Cooper-Ware & Kris Hart SENT this bull to Larry Schorno a KNOWN meat dealer to “foster”??? How many other “fosters” have been sent to Schorno’s

Hart spoke of the care Schorno’s business takes of their horses. “They’re slick. Their feet are trimmed.” If a horse gets so much as a runny nose, “they’re pulled in and medicated. And they are fed fed fed fed. It’s the healthiest bunch of horses you’ll ever see. And then one day it’s over.One day what is over? Their lives? Of course they feed them & take care of them, Japanese people are not going to eat or pay for sickly skinny animals

Hart has participated in Schorno’s transport of horses to Japan. “I flew over on the cargo plane with the draft horses. People can think, ‘oh, that’s just horrible,’ but it’s the smoothest ride.”I would DEFINITELY be concerned if I was having a “smooth ride” on my way to a slaughterhouse, I mean turbulance might upset my delicate balance!!!

When the usefulness of the draft horses and riding horses that aren’t immediately sent to slaughter is over, most face the slaughterhouse. Hart admitted to being concerned over the fate of the horses Schorno exports, “but that’s a concern here, too. In other words I got my money for them, why should I worry about them?

“There are no guarantees either way. I can’t say that when a horse’s usefulness is over in Japan that that horse is going to be quietly put to sleep anymore than I can say that here. People advertise their pasture pets that they want to have a good home, and (then) they sell it to some dealer who says ‘that horse would be perfect for my grandchild.’ And (the killers) take it home and sell it for meat prices. So the only guarantee anybody has of making sure their horse never goes to slaughter is that when they buy that horse, they keep it.” Hart seemed oblivious to the fact that the practice she described echoed her own tactics. Hart seems to be oblivious to many things

Hart realizes people see a conflict between her work with the LPA and her work with Schorno. “There are people who are just horrified that I rescue animals on one hand and I put horses together for riding in Japan on the other. They just think this is a huge conflict. I am understanding of these people. They do have a point.” But if they have a point, what can be told to those who question Hart’s ethics, identify problems with her practices, wonder how she can be so deceptive in securing horses who are destined for a country that considers their meat a delicacy? “Justify our actions any way you want.” Basically she told the reporter & the general public to piss up a rope, she will do what she wants to do

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So again this leaves more questions then answers:

1) Are animals from HAROTC also going to Schorno’s

2) If Mary Cooper-Ware was so upset about her partner selling horses to slaughter why was she still in business with this woman til 2010?

3) Why is the reporter here from PAWS & the horse & tack newspaper woman the only one’s who were upset by this?

4) How many other rescues could get away with this?

5) Why wasn’t any further investigations done about this?

6) Do you think that Lt Mike Ware is going to let his wife be investigated? What is his involvement with LPA & HAROTC?

7) How many people have turned over animals to them that have gone to slaughter?

8) Why is Mary Cooper-Ware’s name not on HARTOC anymore?

9) Does this explain why Lt Mike Ware is involved in most of the horse abuse cases in Thurston County?

10) Do they list the money they made from selling animals to slaughter on their 990 tax form?

11) DO THE DAMN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST EVER END HERE????

12) Was LPA started to get access to free meat?

13) How are LPA & HARTOC connected, are they different, are they the same?

Okay so one of the founders of HARTOC is the manger of the county shelter, Connie Patterson. Like I said before she doesn’t even have to go out & look for meat…er… Horses, the reports come straight to HER!!!

So when people call HAROTC for help, they give the info to Animal Services & this Lt Ware, he runs right over makes a “case” against them. I know for a fact that this is what happened in the Rebecca Turner case & I am pretty sure this is what happened in the Nichol’s case as well…

Did I forget to mention they HAROTC charge the owners between 10K & 16 k for every seizure so they are making money hand over greedy greedy fist!!!

So she gets a paycheck AND donations from the county,

That “rescue’s” original director is married to the main investigating officer in most of ALL of the TC cases.

WTH??? I am going to contact every single lawyer from every single case in Thurston county involving any animal that these people were involved in SINCE 1988 & ask them to further investigate.

HAROTC receives tax payers money so they are accountable under the Freedom of Information Act, there was a case in Tri-Cities that confirmed that in the Washington state Supreme Court.

I am still trying to figure out how to connect all of these “dots” to explain it better to my readers but I am so upset & flabberghasted right now that I can hardly breathe.

I HATE corrupt agencies, I mean I HATE them with a burning rage, but I hate rescuers who abuse animals & people even more… It is now time for me to pull out the Press Pass once again & do some public records requests…

There have been 417 horses taken in by HAROTC & want to find out what happened to each & every single one of them AND they LOVE to brag that they have ONLY LOST ONE CASE…

Geez when the investigating officer’s wife is the founder of the rescue that is getting animals from the county funded shelter it’s a pretty good chance they are not going to lose.

WHAT A RACKET!

I will finish this story later, I have much more information & documents I have to get sorted out & emotion is taking over, so it is best I close for the night. This whole thing is just disgusting

  HAROTC & LPA… Horse Meat dealers, public funds: What else?


Last night I was a little more than upset..

So here is a recap.

Mary Cooper-Ware was the director & co-founder of LPA, & the director & co-founded HAROTC,

Her husband is Lt Mike Ware is the investigating Officer in most of the Thurston County Horse cases,

Connie Patterson was the head of HAROTC is also the Director of Animal Services of Thurston County,

HAROTC has other folks listed as directors & presidents BUT in the newspapers, it is either this Mary Cooper-Ware woman, Bailey woman, or the Patterson Woman who is the “spokesman/director/co-founder.

LPA was trolling craigslist & running ads looking for free livestock to sell to Schorno’s a international horse meat distributor & Premarin foal (pregnant horse pee) dealer.

Mary Cooper-Ware Claims to not have any knowledge this was happening, but til 2010 she was still involved with this woman & LPA.Meanwhile she has publicly admitted she had a Bull at foster with the meat dealer & that she sold it at auction after it was all healed up, because no one is going to buy a sick animal to eat.

So my questions (& there are many more questions than answers) were if she has her hand in both then what is happening to the “rescued” horses? HAROTC says they have taken in 417 animals, but their adoptions don’t match the numbers,it says they have only re-homed 32 animals on their petfinder page.There are several stories about them selling rescued animals at auction. What is the point of rescuing them: Just to sell them to be slaughtered???

They have actually used the meat dealer as a “foster” since 1995.

They also are in the newspapers talking about their latest cases but FAILED to mention that they gave away one woman’s horse & killed another one of them.They also like to brag that they have only lost ONE case against any animals owners, but if the shelter, the rescue & the investigating officer are all connected then that is a BIG HUGE IMPROPRIETY.These are public monies, this needs to be investigated by the Washington State Attorney General’s Office.

Oh & we can’t forget that the Prosecutor Cassandra Jones shows up at the scene when they serve the warrants!!! HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A PROSECUTOR SHOWING UP WHEN A WARRANT IS SERVED? HOW CAN SHE PROSECUTE? ISN’T SHE TECHNICALLY A WITNESS AT THAT POINT?

How many owners KNOW that when Lt Mike Ware shows up at their house they are going down? They then charge the owners 10 to 16K to care for the animals, some they have already given away, or that are dead.They also get grants & funding from Animal Services as well as other parts of City/County Govt, which makes them publicly accountable.Yet they are always saying they have no funds to care for any animals, all they do is newspaper stories about how broke they are & all they do is beg on their facebook page.

Donations are a big part of rescue because MOST rescues don’t get 10 to 16K per seizure, nor do they receive Govt funding.

Here is what the Secretary of State’s Office shows for LPA & HAROTC… I have removed personal addresses

LIVESTOCK PROTECTION ASSOCIATION
UBI Number    601101665
Category    REG
Profit/Nonprofit    Nonprofit
Active/Inactive    Inactive
State Of Incorporation    WA
WA Filing Date    08/12/1988

Expiration Date 08/31/2010

Inactive Date    12/01/2010
Duration    Perpetual
Registered Agent Information
Agent Name    DEBBIE MOSS
Address
City    YELM
State    WA
ZIP    98597
Governing Persons

Treasurer 

Fletcher, Lilli  YELM, WA
President

HART, KRIS  RAINIER, WA
Director 

WARE, MARY  ROCHESTER WA

Director    

MOSS, DEBBIE     YELM, WA
http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?ubi=601101665

HOOVED ANIMAL RESCUE OF THURSTON COUNTY
UBI Number    601912865
Category    REG
Profit/Nonprofit    Nonprofit
Active/Inactive    Active
State Of Incorporation    WA
WA Filing Date    11/05/1998

Expiration Date    11/30/2012

Inactive Date
Duration    Perpetual
Registered Agent Information
Agent Name    John Countryman
Address
City    YELM
State    WA
ZIP    98597
Address
City    EAST OLYMPIA
State    WA
Zip    98540
Governing Persons

Treasurer    

Countryman, John  YELM, WA
Secretary  

Holbrook, Diana  ROCHESTER, WA
Vice President  

Jolley, Bev RAINIER, WA
Vice President    

KING, TERESA  YELM, WA
President  

Bailey, Kathy  RAINIER, WA
http://www.sos.wa.gov/corps/search_detail.aspx?ubi=601912865

I found this story about Paula Nichols from a person who HATES her guts, who has been hell bent on destroying her, the point is that even HE can see how much bulldoody this story is & he lays it out point by point

Re: Police seize starving fair animals-WA
I think that Thurston County officals and Hooved Animal Rescue did a real number on Paula Nichols too, following the pattern of attacking other rescuers. I don’t think that Paula Nichols did anything wrong except to live in Thurston County.

Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Re: Police seize starving fair animals-WA

Hello, Deborah-Ann.
After Miss Nichols was arrested and charged with the offenses she committed in Thurston County, I contacted and spoke with Lt. Ware of the Thurston County Sheriff’s Office.

Re: [REXANO] Re: [Phoenix_Exotics] Police seize starving fair animals-WA

http://www.kirotv.com/news/17132596/detail.html

Go to this link, click on the slideshow, and look very carefully at the ribcage of the “emaciated” llama. What I see there is a physical impossibility. It is like there is a huge concavity just back of the right shoulder from about the middle of the torso to the spine, including the spine in a way that would require the crushing of bones to make the shape. Worse than that, that shape simply can’t exist because the spine of any animal has a certain width and the photograph shows zero width from the centerline of the spine to the right side of the animal in the area in question.

The left side of the animal does not match the right side of the animal. The neck is not as emaciated as the appearance of the right side of the torso. The belly is completely normal and is not congruent with the appearance of the right shoulder, ribcage, or withers. The concavity is the result of a really bad attempt to morph that part of the picture. The picture is digitally blurred: Compare it to the news photographs where you can clearly what a shaved llama should look like. The blurring erases some of the tracks from the morphing. The animal that is shown being handled is of a perfectly normal weight.

Llamas don’t come with “an ounce of fat.” That llama is young but quite heavy with muscle, which shows that it is well fed. Any of these images can be saved by using the “Print Scrn” button on a PC compatible, which is just to the right of the F12 key, and pasting into your favorite viewer. Then save as and choose your folder and file name. The victim of this assault on her civil liberties deserves to sue someone over all of this. It’s way too easy for someone like Hooved Animal Rescue to obscure who did what to whom, when, and how, and to try to disclaim responsibility. The whole thing requires a very careful investigation. I want her to have money and sympathetic experts and some kind of pull to get the venue away from the judges that HAR uses. Someone accused me of believing everything that I see in the media. That is probably doublespeak for “doesn’t believe what he sees in the media.” This is ironic because this person uses the media to manipulate people. The “underfed animals” trick is so old it should have gone out with vaudeville. That was no lady… The reason that the news cameras don’t show any emaciated animals is because there were none at the fair. That is a reasonable thing to say when the only photograph that shows emaciation was manipulated, poorly and obviously, and the words of Connie Patterson contradict what is plain to see when she was showing the news crew.

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Here is an article written by a volunteer for HAROTC (obviously) but the comments are very telling, I took out about 50 of them but left one’s that need to be noted. Judging from the comment HAROTC has a history of seizing animals & only showing pix of the animals in bad shape & using lighting to make them look even worse & selling or giving away animals before a case is resolved

But my trainer said they look fine! Aug 31 2009

Another day, another self-centered idiot who refuses to have a number of horses she can actually feed. The best part was her comment in the title – I can’t wait until I can tell you who the trainer is but I can’t say just yet. These came from Yelm, Washington and this afternoon I was on site visiting the seized horses. My pics are below.

See the mare who set herself up, Arab halter-style? That is one heck of a nice quality mare. I can’t wait to find out who she is but the owner ignored the warrant and refused to release the papers. (If you recognize a horse in my pics, by all means, please comment!) The pinto is also a heck of a nice mare who is going to be beautiful with weight on. The horses are Saddlebreds, Arabians and pinto half-Arabians with a few minis thrown in for good measure. The ridiculous teeth belong to a mini stallion with a wry nose. ‘Cause that needs to breed on! I had the opportunity to work a bit with the “wild, uncontrollable” stallion while I was visiting and he needed to be removed from his stall for cleaning. I think it took me a whopping 3 minutes to halter him…as soon as he realized wither scratches feel awesome, he was eager to make friends and get more. I was on the alert, expecting nipping, striking, rearing and other naughty colt behaviors but Taco failed miserably at being a wild, uncontrollable stallion, doing nothing more than backing up a few steps and stopping when he realized, hey, no one was pulling on him and there was no chain. Taco desperately needs 300 lbs and 2 nonessential body parts removed, but after that I suspect someone will have a darn nice show horse in the making.

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County has all of these guys going to foster homes this week to continue fattening up and have their feet and other needs attended to. HARTC does a great job in a county where problems are many and funding is scarce and these horses are going to need a lot of help, as you can see.


  1. grandje says: September 5, 2009 at 3:36 pmIts sad when animals are abused or neglected. I am curious though if I remember correctly there were nearly 30 animals taken yet you only have pictures of 3 or 4 animals? What are the ages of the animals in question? Did any of them have medical issues asside from neglect that could possibly explain a low wieght? I used to have a horse that was over 30 that I couldn’t keep weight on but wasn’t going to put her down as she was not sick or feeble. Pictures aren’t always what they seem, remember when our president looked to be bowing to an arab prince???
  1. grandje says: September 5, 2009 at 3:44 pmhorslovr says: September 3, 2009 at 9:02 amI accidentally posted this under the srong story So, here it is again, a little modified. The reason that mare set herself up halter is because the trainer primarily does halter. He trains Arabians and is located in the Yelm/Tenino area. He and his wife show in the Arab circuit and have for years. If it is is true that he knowingly kept horses under these conditions with this person, who by the way IS a client of his and has been for several years, it is the most shamful thing I can imagine. Of course, they(trainers) will deny their part in any of this They always do! There are definately those people who should never own animals and are just plain ignorant and then there are these people who know better. They (trainers) are to represent and be an example of how to properly care for a horse. After all this is supposed to be their profession.There are many people in this community who know EXACTLY who he and his wife and the woman who had them are. If those involved with Arabians and any kind of training think about it long enough, they do too! As far as the horse, Taco, she has had this horse for several years supposedly as a rescue. He doesn’t look any better than when she first got him. He was stabled with this trainer, at his barn, for a while. What does that tell you????*Didn’t the person taking the pictures say Taco was two years old? If that is true then your information seems to be incorrect.”
  1. grandje says: September 5, 2009 at 3:50 pmhorslovr says: September 3, 2009 at 9:02 amI accidentally posted this under the srong story So, here it is again, a little modified.I too have gone to see these horses and the pictures don’t do the level of neglect justice. Pictures do not show the sad, defeated look in their eyes or their frailness. It is by far the saddest thing I have ever seen. Shame on all of them!*I would be curious to see pictures of the other 20 some odd animals to see if all of them are in the same shape. I see pictures above of 3 animals and not much specific information on the rest of the animals. This seems like alot of hatred without much factual information or vet reports.*
  1. fhotd says: September 5, 2009 at 4:12 pmThere are pictures of 3 or 4 because the volunteers were busy actually working, it was too dark in the barn to get clear pics, and I did not think that making them drag all the horses out for pics was a good use of their time. I assure you, none of these horses are 30 (and even if they were, try reading my old horses thread to see what 30 OUGHT and SHOULD look like). I will out the trainer as soon as I have the ok to do so but it’s obvious the locals have this figured out. All I have to say is, if your horse is in training/on a lease in the Yelm, WA area and you’re NOT checking on him, maybe you might want to do that.
  1. grandje says: September 11, 2009 at 2:13 amfhotd says: September 5, 2009 at 4:12 pmThere are pictures of 3 or 4 because the volunteers were busy actually working, it was too dark in the barn to get clear pics, and I did not think that making them drag all the horses out for pics was a good use of their time.* Why would they drag all the horses out for pics? The animals would need to be taken out of the barn on the way to whichever trailer is going to take them off of the property, correct? Wouldn’t you need pictures of each animal as well as a vet report on each animal at the time of confiscation in order to show actual neglect? What was the name of the Vet that was on sight to do the animal inspections? *I assure you, none of these horses are 30 (and even if they were, try reading my old horses thread to see what 30 OUGHT and SHOULD look like).
  1. grandje says: September 12, 2009 at 12:41 pm*chirp chirp* I hear crickets chirping but no answers to my questions… Horslovr… fhotd…??
  1. sneakers2 says: September 12, 2009 at 10:04 pmInstant idiots…. Obviously most bloggers visiting this site are so narrow-minded they only have one ear!!! I have yet to see a firm and fit 30 year old horse — the equivalent of a 90-year old person. Anyone remember that a horse over 12 years is called a “smooth mouth” for a reason? I do have some information about this seizure. There was no vet present–the vet didn’t examine the animals until the following Tuesday.At the seizure, the horse owner was told “the vet is on the way” but probably had never been notified of the seizure until after the fact.It is unfortunate that many folks open their mouths before checking the facts. Show the photos of all the horses so the bloggers can see these horses were in relatively good condition. It is obvious that most folks involved in the “rescue” don’t which know end of the horse to feed. Perhaps the most assinine comment on the TV coverage was the comment that “this horse’s chest is so thin that it only needs one hole for both legs”. Which rock did this person crawl out from under? ALso was a noted that a pygmy goat was seized because it had a pot belly (OMG) what would have happened with a pot bellied pig? One of the features of pygmy goats is that they have a giant belly (as opposed to Alpine or Nubian goats). Several animals were ponies taken from pasture with the allegation of “worm overload”. Anyone who has owned or been around ponies know that ponies on pasture get hay bellies — and that is not necessarily “neglect”. Questions– there are a lot more questions than answers.
  1. fhotd says: September 12, 2009 at 10:29 pmI have posted many pictures of “firm and fit” 30 year olds. Check the old horse thread. None of the horses seized was that age, and many were in despicably thin condition. The comment that both legs came out of the same hole on some was sadly perfectly descriptive. I have no doubt after seeing the horses myself that this was a severe case of totally avoidable neglect. And of course, all horses were promptly treated by an excellent vet. But you defenders keep up with the silly statements. They are so easy to prove wrong.
  1. grandje says: September 18, 2009 at 2:34 pmThank you sneakers for shedding a little more light on the subject. My whole skepticism in this ordeal started when I saw the tv news coverage as well. When they showed the mini’s with hay bellies that were in a pasture it reminded me of a friend of mines who looked the same and were not neglected. It’s starting to sound more and more like an unlawful confiscation of animals under the unfounded “guise” of neglect. It also seems like an abuse of bestowed power and those responsible for the confiscation could/should face criminal charges. People who seemingly act like bullies such as these people are lucky they don’t get shot, although I don’t think the honest pet owners who are being stolen from realize it until after it’s over. This however doesn’t mean I don’t think actual animal cruelty and neglect happens however it seems this is not one of those cases.
  1. Chelsea says: September 29, 2009 at 12:51 pmI know these horses & people. My step sister Desiree Lewis, she was shown on the interveiw.. only ONE of these horses were rescued. The black Arabian mare, Wago. There is one grey Arabian who is in her late 20′s. & the Pinto mare who is in her 30′s.. STILL THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THERE WEIGHT & CONDITION. I have wanted to call on there horses for years now. I have always told them “they need this & they need that” but my mom always said don’t start anything it’s not your fault & i feel terrible. My sister is daiting her the son of the lady who owns these animals.. They have other animals. About 30 or so more dogs that they did not take that some are in bad condtion as well.. There is a black arabian filly, barley two years old who they bred & has they bay filly at her side… It’s just a shame.. She is skin & bones.. There is one TB they had. The rest are arabians & half arabians.. Poeople like this should not own animals. They don’t have the money, the resorces, or the propor fecility to own & provide for them. I hope they get what they deserve for this.. OH & THERE “TRAINER”. SOME GUY WHO GOT SHUT DOWN BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO PAY HIS RENT MONEY AT A BARN. HES A JOKE. HE TAKES PEOPLES MONEY & PUTS THE HORSES IN THERE STALLS. He isn’t a trainer. He’s a moron who claims he knows what he’s doing but uses harsh “cowboy” methods & the horses come back beaten & broke. But no trainer. ANYONE can abuse an animal.
  1. Chelsea says: September 29, 2009 at 12:57 pmOh & also.. Iknow for a FACT these horses haddent been wormed in AGES! They weren’t on ANY pasture. They were in a DIRT pen with THOUSANDS of rocks! NO GRASS!! These horses were NOT in “rekativley good shape” these horses & ponies & gots & sheep were in terrible condition. So if YOU had any brains YOU should know that. & yes it’s rare to see a fit horse in there late 20′s & older but that’s no excuse to be in THAT bad of shape They should have there teeth floated & be on seinor feed of some sort. KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU TRY & ACT SMART. What do you say about there hooves? These horses were kept in UNFAIR conditions. There was NOT ANY ROOM in that small pasture for all these animals!! There was hardley ANY shelter for no more then 3 at a time. No horses got blanketed in the winter except the 3 older ones.. SOME PEOPLES NERVE TO ACTUALLY TRY TO DEFEND PEOPLE LIKE THIS! I know the whole story & i know these people personally..
    But what they have done IS W R O N G hello!!
  1. Desiree says: October 4, 2009 at 10:59 pmThis has gone to far. I am sick of all the slander you do gooders have to offer. This is NOT a case of abuse or neglect. These “Rescuers” have no idea what they are talking about. They can not even figure out names and sexes of these animals. Most of these horses are in there 20′s and 30′s. Feed twice a day with grass hay alfalfa and senior grain. And the water was kept up also. The owner DID NOT state that she only fed twice a week. That is stupid one of those moron rescuers did. I am tierd of this they had 6 horses teeth floated with in this year. And all vet checked this year. How come they NEVER showed pictures of the other horses they have had sence they were babys. And Chelsea the little girl that wrote the blog on Sept. 29th she has no idea what she is talking about. They need to go out and see her horse, she is ungratful. Always leaving the horse alone for days at a time while she goes to her boyfriends house. The horses ribs are showing and he is only 2. He is a blind stud, she wanted to breed him to one of our mares. Also your going to punish some one for doing a good deed. Most of these horses would not even be living if it were not for the owner. People would not look twice a these horses. But the rescue can not even take care of them. As stated in the Olympian.The owner had the money too. And still does. Give the horses back. She did not abuse or neglect them. All of you are negeleting to see the fact that you tore these horses away from there home. The owner loved them like her own children. Oh and to clear something up The bay arabian mare, she is in her late 20s and they did not ride her because she is older. Let the horse be retired thats what mostly all of them are doing. Living the rest of there days out on a nice little farm BEING TAKEN CARE OF!!!! and i am sorry but if one of you do gooders theys to tell me different you have no idea what you are talking about so just shut up and go ride one of your quarter horsesThanks SO much Desiree
  1. Desiree says: October 4, 2009 at 11:34 pmSlander words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone. Next, time ya’ll decide to take matters into your own hands; just realize your digging your own hole. Must feel good doing that huh…?
  1. LuvzHerHorses says: October 7, 2009 at 11:05 amI have quite a bit to say in response to everything posted over the last month… so please bear with me.Fantasia states Doesnt the dimwit owner have to be convicted before they can place any of the horses since this wasn’t a voluntary surrenderNormally yes… But to prove how screwed up the Hooved Animal Rescue is and how they will take anyone’s animals to make a few bucks, they put them all up for sale immediately. Not something I would expect them to admit freely, but something I happen to know as a fact. They were also suppose to bring a vet out to the premises to rate these horses before seizing them and they did not do that either. The vet did not go to see the horses for three days. So for all we know they starved them after taking them just so they could have their pathetic pictures and low ratings.Anna… You seem to think the horse with the damaged feet is unhappy and in pain have you seen the horse personally? How do you really know he is unhappy? If you look closely to the pictures you can see that the horse had a recent feet trimming. The horse came to her that way and they were in the process of repairing the damage. Again… this is another case of someone who is passing judgment without all the facts.

    Anyone who feeds their animal the local grass (which I believe she was feeding some of the animals) is going to get the bloated belly. Can I just point out that the lady on the news report contradicted herself when she said the big hay belly… the big belly on the mini is from a worm overload Which is it? A hay belly or worms… you can not have both. Oh and for the record the owner had ALL feces tested and low and behold there were no worms detected.

    I would also like to know why, if you watch the news story none of the horses on the story reflect the pictures posted. This takes me back to my above comment of them being starved after they were taken to make the horses look bad.

    I happen to know this trainer that everyone keeps referring too. I have four horses at his facility and in his care. I have been going out to his facility 6 days a week for almost a year, when I put my first horse in training with him. I would like to clear a few things up:

    First Chelsea needs to shut her mouth because this trainer DOES NOT beat the horses. This trainer has more talent in his little finger then most of the trainers in this area. Most of the trainers around here like to talk trash and spread rumors about other trainers to gain business. This trainer has an amazing bond with all the animals in his care.

    Second I do not know where everyone is getting their information but the trainer NEVER said the horses looked fine These animals were NOT at his facility and it was not his responsibility to feed them. I would also like to mention that he ONLY had three of her horse in training at his facility EVER and that was over nine months ago. He has not been involved with the horses since.

    Third and finally… Again Chelsea… you need to get your facts straight. The trainer was never shut down because he refused to pay his rent. What happened is really no ones business, but those of us who are close to this trainer and know the truth know what happened. All that needs to be said is that the trainer upheld his end of the contract.

  1. fhotd says: October 7, 2009 at 11:10 am>>I happen to know this trainer that everyone keeps referring too. I have four horses at his facility and in his care. I have been going out to his facility 6 days a week for almost a year, when I put my first horse in training with him.< <Really? Because I wouldn’t leave a horse there with what the horses in his front yard look like. By the way, which facility are you talking about, the place he’s in now or the place he got foreclosed out of or the place he got kicked out of before that?
  1. LuvzHerHorses says: October 7, 2009 at 2:17 pmThe fact that you only responded to a very small portion of my response proves that you are making this a personal attack against this trainer, and that is just sad. I don’t understand how this started as a seizure of horses at one persons property to attacking a trainer that had nothing to do with the horses. As far as the two horses out front…. when is the last time you went by there? And do you know ANYTHING about those two horses? I think not… but I do….
  1. fhotd says: October 7, 2009 at 2:28 pmNo, it proves I’m busy and don’t have enough time to comment endlessly on my own blog. The criminals in this case have been charged and I’ll be posting a new blog entry soon with the update so you can blather away then. I personally attack everybody who neglects horses. That’s one of the main topics of this blog. I’m not singling him out. Every defense on this thread is RIDICULOUS. Age is NEVER an excuse for a horse to be emaciated. I can show you FAT thirty year olds all day.

Here is another story where they admit to selling the horses at Auction to get money from 1995, so here is the PROOF that HAROTC sells rescues at auction, so that is just MORE money in their pockets. Oh & please note who the director is: Mary Cooper-Ware How could ANYONE support a “rescue” like this? How disgusting is this?

Severe horse neglect Thurston County, WA (US) Incident Date: Tuesday, Feb 28, 1995 County: Thurston Disposition: Convicted Case Images: 1 files available

Defendants/Suspects:» Wayne Nichols» Rebecca Nichols

Wayne Nichols, 67, and Rebecca “Bunny” Nichols, 61, were ordered at the time not to possess any horses other than those agreed to by a county prosecutor, and to allow them to be inspected periodically. The horses had been confiscated more than a year earlier and later were sold at auction, in part to cover a private group’s costs of care that topped $34,000.

But the 1994-95 Washington state case apparently didn’t come to light at the time, because the couple had entered what’s known as an “Alford plea,” not admitting to the underlying facts, but acknowledging they probably would lose at trial  a procedure legally seen as a guilty plea.

A Medford woman who became aware of the couple’s arrest contacted Mary Ware of Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County (http://www.har-otc.com/), who was involved in the previous case and passed on information about it officials in Bend.

PETFINDER INFO: ADOPTED ANIMALS so where are the other 385 animals??? So where is the money from the animals that are auctioned off?

Adopted Pets from Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County (Olympia, WA)

Photo Name Features Organization
Picture Simon Goat

Senior, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Perfect and Bossy Goat

Young, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Angel Goat

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Stella and Lucy Llama

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Rob Appaloosa

Young, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Jax Arabian

Adult, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Quince Arabian

Young, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Maria Arabian

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Oliver Arabian

Young, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Kisha Arabian

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Nugget Arabian

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Oo La La Arabian
Paint/Pinto
Senior, Female
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Turbo Arabian
Quarterhorse
Young, Male
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Stewart Donkey

Senior, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Shadow Morgan

Adult, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Woody Morgan

Young, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Thelma Lou Mule

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Mia Paint/Pinto

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Roxy Paint/Pinto

Young, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Classy Pony

Senior, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Dolly Pony

Young, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Starlight Quarterhorse

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Copper Quarterhorse

Adult, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Cash Quarterhorse

Baby, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Lakota Quarterhorse

Baby, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA

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Picture Tango Quarterhorse

Young, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Sugar Quarterhorse
Arabian
Adult, Female
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Sally Quarterhorse
Arabian
Adult, Female
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Sugar Quarterhorse
Arabian
Young, Female
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Goldie Quarterhorse
Paint/Pinto
Adult, Female
Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Jim Thoroughbred

Senior, Male

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA
Picture Firefly Thoroughbred

Adult, Female

Hooved Animal Rescue of Thurston County
Olympia, WA

Let me esplain some things to you Lucy…. (HAROTC)

I am always amused at people who think they are far superior than anyone else, so much so that it is usually to their detriment…

I am also disturbed at the amount of time the folks from Hooved Animal Rescue spend on my pages, all of my pages. Maybe you should spend some time cleaning up your rescue practices instead of trying to see what I am doing or saying. Always remember I wouldn’t have anything to say about you if you were being good rescuers. If your cases fall apart, that is because of your practices, not my writing, all I did was take all the parts of garbage that you all put out & put them together. When I first started writing about you I gave you chance after chance to respond or even defend yourself, & had you responded I would’ve had no reason to look any further. Honestly what good is it going to do for you to go running to the prosecutor?

Let me esplain a few things to you:

I first heard of you when you were running around giving pictures that were evidence to the local papers, & when I read the stories about Ms Turner I was HORRIFIED that the paper posted so much of her personal information, including her address, middle name & age.

I couldn’t figure out why there was such hatred for this woman, I seen the pictures of the animals & the dogs looked skinny, but it always disturbed me that you were screaching about the horses but there were NEVER any pictures of them in the newspaper. There were never any on your facebook page or your website either.

It was also HIGHLY disturbing to me that the PROSECUTOR showed up to serve the warrant, that showed that this was a personal issue, & it showed a very unethical pattern of behavior. Even if you all get a conviction on Ms Turner a good appellate attorney can rip the whole case to shreds after they slice & dice it. I also think it very strange that things are being said to her in hearings in response to what I have written that she has never asked nor has her counsel asked. All court hearings are a matter of public record.

In looking further all I could find were articles about how you needed so much money, yet you were still taking in animals, & not only that ACTIVELY seeking more animals. Yet in researching I found that for every case where you all seized animals you were asking for 10 to 16 thousand dollars from the owners, & getting grants from the city & county. Plus donations from the general public.

It was at that point I started to smell something not quite right… I then contacted Ms Turner & got copies of everything she had for documentation, to be honest I went in thinking I was going to meet a psychopath animal abuser, instead I found someone who was brutally honest & didn’t try to sugarcoat anything or try to sway me to one side or the other. The “evidence” against her was just too ridiculous, & had so many holes in it that I had to investigate it further & that is how I came to write about you…

Going through my rescue page, my page about my case, & my Ministry page is not going to tell you anything new about me nor is it going to give you any ammunition to use against me. I have always been honest about myself, I have never tried to hide anything, I don’t care, anything I have done or experienced made me who I am today.

Between you all & the City of Everett sitting on my pages all day you make up 32% of all my web traffic.

I got a message from Ms Turner asking me not to write anymore stories about her because you all were crying to the prosecutor. REALLY??? This is no longer about Ms Turner, & if you are going  to further persecute her for your actions then I hope she sues the living crap out of all of you.

You have to also ask yourself how I got all of this information… I most likely would’ve found it on my own, but I get email after email telling me so many things about you from people close to you, most of it I haven’t been able to print but a lot have given me information on where to look.

Maybe you can explain what happened to the 385 animals still UNACCOUNTED for, are they on someone dinner table in a foreign country, or right here? You take in 417 (by your own account) but only have 32 listed as adopted. I think maybe you shouldn’t be so worried about what I am doing.

You tried to prosecute Ms Turner & many other people in the court of “Public Opinion” & evidently the Olympian only reports what you tell them to as evidenced by the other articles they do about if the dogs cough fart or sneeze, but not one article of how the one horse died of an intestinal rupture some 5 months after being seized in your care, not one single article about how you forfeited Ms Turner’s property before the case had been decided, I am sure we never heard a story about how the Great Danes lost toes & tails in your or the county’s care. Since you gave away one of Ms Turner’s horses & killed the other one, I would be interested to see if you still ask the standard 10K for their care, when it is obvious from VET RECORDS that you never provided any care for the horses except for some bloodwork. I also know there is some connection to the newspaper & the rescue or shelter, I just haven’t figured it out yet.

There is this pesky little thing called the 1st Amendment (you might want to go read it) & honestly it makes no sense to threaten or intimidate Ms Turner because I chose to write about you. All it does is show extreme prejudice in your case. I have not written anything that is false, I am only writing about things you put out there.

I am also simply stating the obvious. I love the fact that you brag about only losing ONE case, it is easy to see how that would happen… Since the investigating officer is married to the founder of the rescue, who’s other co-founder is also the shelter manager, & the prosecutor shows up to serve the warrants, seems like you have it all in the bag. Guaranteed wins…

I will not do any more stories about Ms Turner, I will simply just go look into the other cases & report on those. If any of the other cases have as many holes in theirs as there are in hers, I won’t even need to mention her case at all… So there: Are you happy now? I think instead of trying to persecute her or blame her, maybe you should look to your own actions.

 

 
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